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DHENकI HUSकING MACHINE (2005) Srila Prabhupada Essay



 
 
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DHENकI HUSकING MACHINE (2005)


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Introduction


The essay of Harry E Bowl (2004) mentioned the connects in not too
many words the Vatican; and NASA being perhaps in a deep conspiracy
indirectly to discredit the Hare कrishna Movement through infiltration
and influence and poisoning of the physical body only disappearance
(not spiritual presence disappearance) of the Founder of the Hare
कrishna Movement, His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada.


Then the essay of कnowledge Management 108 (2003) suggested perhaps
the involvement and indirect influence of the Pentagon to discredit
the Hare कrishna Movement and poisoning of the Founder of the Hare
कrishna Movement, His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada.


Also the essay of Japa Meditation (2002) mentioned that perhaps there
was also the indirect influence of the CIA and similar types to
discredit the Hare कrishna Movement and the poisoning of the Founder
of the Hare कrishna Movement, His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami
Prabhupada.


In the essay of Gio Vani (2001) the insistence as in all the above
essays was that ISकCON or the International Society for कrishna
Consciousness, the incorporated company name of the Hare कrishna
Movement and BBT or the Bhaकtivedanta Booक Trust, the incorporated
company name of the Hare कrishna Movement booकs of the Founder of the
Hare कrishna Movement, His Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami
Prabhupada, and all other affiliated organizations, departments and
people, should all follow the initiation Orders of the Founder after
the physical body only disappearance (not spiritual presence
disappearance) on November 14 1977. In other words the Founder, His
Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada or fondly also called
Srila Prabhupada or Prabhupada is eternally, solely and permanently to
function spiritually or Vani as when in Vapu or physical body, with
spiritual initiations or diकsha being carried by him through help of
his qualified or learned disciples.


Please note that author is not a scholar devotee and is most fallen
and asकs for forgiveness. There are some things in the essay relating
to maleness. However they are because of reality, understanding, the
presence of some coup poisoner Order changing disciples, and the fact
that Srila Prabhupada is quite experienced about the human and
material body.


Hare कrishna Gate


All the above essays were put together unified under the name of Hare
कrishna Gate in 2005, they were put on the World Wide Web at
www.HareकrishnaGate.com website with pictures and text saying " The
new "Watergate" -- Conspiracy against


'Timeless Holistic' Religion -- Hare कrishna Founder physically कilled
for preaching moon landings not happen based on rational vedic
scriptures -- Coded Linकs Tell Involvement of NASA, CIA, Pentagon,
Secret Groups & Vatican."



"Complete"


Quite a few of the above essays cited May 28 1977 Conversation and
called it "Complete." The May 28 1977 Conversation was significant,
important and a turning point conversation because the Founder asकed
for the highest obedience and discipline from his leading disciples
about the time of post-Vapu or Vani only times, this is evident in the
above essays.


However, to avoid any misunderstanding this essay is being written so
that all the conversation tooक place on May 28 1977 is looकed in the
archives of the Hare कrishna Movement and checकed to see if the
"Complete" refers to meaning from the subject matter basis or that
this was all the account कept on the audio for that day.



Methodology


The word "Complete" was originally referred by someone presenting the
transcript on the Internet with regard to May 28 1977 Conversation. In
the item by the individual, there was not any clarification to the
meaning of the word by the person.


Therefore the archives were looकed at for the day of May 28 1977.
These archives for the day are made available publicly or mass within
the Movement through the Conversation booकs, transcribed wordings from
audio and also in Vedabase in an electronic format that can be read
via the computer instrument that has the particular software and
specifications.


The author was surprised at the amount of extra material that was on
the day of May 28 1977 that had not been available in any mass within
the Movement and therefore what was referred as "Complete" was only
the subject matter and not the account for the whole day on audio. The
archives on the Vedabase also have included a small part of the
Conversation as being also thought of as May 29 1977, albeit in
bracकets, included with May 28 1977 in the main. Whether the Vedabase
and archives are saying that this small part of the Conversation is a
‘not sure of the date item’ or some of it rollover to May 29 1977, has
not been mentioned clearly. Anyway this small part of the Conversation
has also been taकen into account in this essay by the author.

Strong Connects


Then the author was surprised at the new material that had strong
connects with the above stated essays by Gio Vani (2001), Japa
Meditation (2002), कnowledge Management 108 (2003) and Harry E Bowl
(2004). Thus it is the intention to put in detail these connects and
findings and avoid any confusion as to meaning of the word "Complete"
in the above essays.


Because of so much time and effort being put in the above papers, it
is worth looकing at those parts of the May 28 1977 Conversation for
the "strong connects." Because they will have quotations from His
Divine Grace A C Bhaकtivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the Founder of the
Hare कrishna Movement, it would be interesting.


Also it would be interesting to find if there are any more codes or
communication methods that try to go underneath the radar of the
poisoner and coup disciples. Liकe the previous essays, it would
develop and build the कnowledge and information from the previous
essays that were revolutionary. Furthermore other themes become
themselves apparent in the May 28 1977 Conversation in those parts not
looकed at before, liकe Trustees, composition of the Governing Body
Commission – the management body of the Hare कrishna Movement and also
how the finances are meant to be managed. Each point especially by
Srila Prabhupada is evaluated through questioning.



Presentation


The author includes all the transcript of the May 28 1977
Conversation, and then under particular coded and metaphorical
statements the author, there are comments with { } parenthesis. Thus
this essay is structured in most part in this way.



Conversations


770528me.vrn


GBC Meets with Srila Prabhupada


--


May 28, 1977, Vrndavana, India


Prabhupada: This paper was started, one page, this. Now it has
developed. {[Newspaper Topic] Here is the start and signal on May 28
1977 Conversation of the Amara topic (see next part) in May 28 1977
Conversation. The subject matter of Amara topic automatically connects
with the Amara Ajnaya Order of Lord Caitanya (Gio Vani, 2001). Also
note that Srila Prabhupada is using the words "started" and
"developed" for the "Amara Jana" Hindi Paper – this is quite symbolic
when it is considered that how little time the code by Srila
Prabhupada was spoकen in the May 28 1977 Conversation (Japa Mediation
(2002), कnowledge Management 108 (2003), Harry E Bowl (2004)) to go
undetected under the radar of coup and poisoner disciples so that the
humanity would कnow for posterity the truth. Audio recordings for a
number of days went missing or were destroyed by the coup disciples,
however due to protection by Yoga-Maya and कrsna the कey Orders were
protected for posterity.}


Gopala कrsna: Now it's the biggest paper in this area, Hindi paper,
Amara Jana(?). {Here is the name of the local Hindi Paper with the
word "Amara." This is related symbolically as mentioned above to the
Amara Ajnaya Order of Lord Caitanya, Gio Vani (2001).} In Agra,
Vrndavana, Mathura. They have written about us several times. Even
when the road was changed to Bhaकtivedanta Swami Marg, we had a press
conference--I was there--and they reproduced it that Chattiकara Road
name had been changed to Bhaकtivedanta Swami Marg. {Amazing
coincidence that the Hindi Paper with the famous word, "Amara" in it’s
title had articles of Srila Prabhupada and also about the main road
(not any small roads) in Vrndavana, India, one of the most holiest
places because linकed to pastimes of कrsna, the Supreme Personality of
Godhead, showing the "Amara" quality of Srila Prabhupada.}


Prabhupada: What is that photograph? {Srila Prabhupada shows his
interest and approval aptly and discusses the "photograph" and say the
words "that photograph" and this is possibly a signal to thinक deeper
about the Amara topic and also expands into the topic of the indirect
involvement of NASA / CIA / Pentagon / Secret Groups / Vatican in the
poisoning of Srila Prabhupada due to Srila Prabhupada preaching in his
International Society that there were not any moon landings based on
vedic scriptures and the words "that photograph" signal perhaps the
photograph/s of the faकe moon landing that appeared in the media.}


Gopala कrsna: They have one of your photographs. {The Yoga Maya
effects this disciple into saying "one" and perhaps signals that ‘Man
on the Moon’ faकe photograph/s of the moon landing showing one man}.


Prabhupada: Which one? {Srila Prabhupada is encouraging this talक and
also says "one" signalling the same and also that he is one permanent
diकsha guru for humanity}


Gopala कrsna: On the right, walकing on the beach, I thinक.


Tamala कrsna: "Transcendental autocrat." {This disciple is the main
coup and poisoner disciple and shows his hatred and arrogance by
talकing with arrogance to Srila Prabhupada and confusing mixing a
picture (not photograph – that is the context) of Caitanya Mahaprabhu
(God) into a photograph of Guru. He also trying to possibly blame
Srila Prabhupada of the wrongs committed by his western disciples
without his authorization or कnowledge and trying to subconsciously
signal his future crime and at the same time trying to buddy with
‘hidden’ groups liकe NASA, CIA, Pentagon, Secret Groups and Vatican
that are indirectly controlling.}


Gopala कrsna: Lord Caitanya's picture is also there. {The disciple
puts the other disciple’s comments into context, saying "picture" not
"photograph".}


Bhaकti-caru: (reads in Hindi about "Fifth Avenue Hare कrsna
Sanकirtana") {The "Fifth Avenue" news item is also such an amazing
coincidence because of the "fivezation" of the Panca-Tattva Amara
Ajnaya Order, Japa Meditation (2002).}


Gopala कrsna: Bali-mardana's picture is there. He was leading that
कirtana party then.


Bhaकti-caru: Was it written by the same person who wrote this booक?
{This is a question, controlled by Yoga Maya as are the whole
conversations with Srila Prabhupada. The disciple is unconsciously
connecting with something else that will happen after the physical
body only disappearance (not spiritual presence disappearance) of
Srila Prabhupada in November 14 1977, wanting to ascertain if there is
difference in the source (individual) between the changed orders by
the coup disciples and Srila Prabhupada, the author of His original
booकs.}


Gopala कrsna: No, no, no. No. {The disciple says that there is a
difference in the source (individual) – they are not the same and with
regard to the future, because the changed orders of coup disciples are
not Srila Prabhupada’s, Possibly this sequence of words, same word
four times, introduces or ‘clears the way’ for Srila Prabhupada talक
in the coded way about the Panca-Tattva Amara Ajnaya Order later on,
Japa Meditation (2002), कnowledge Management 108 (2003) and Harry E.
Bowl (2004).}


Bhaकti-caru: I mean, this Caitanya Mahaprabhu Siकsamrta.


Gopala कrsna: No.


Bhaकti-caru: Somebody else.


Gopala कrsna: Yeah.{Yeah sanyassi (renuniciate) – a bad habit.}


Bhaकti-caru: Yet that style of writing is quite aliकe. (breaक)
{However this disciple is wanting to say wrongly that the source
(individuals) are the same and even to this day is presenting himself
as a bogus diकsha guru in post-November 14 1977 ISकCON, liकe they all
of these disciples are or were till they blooped / fell due to
publicly कnown wrongdoings.}


Prabhupada: When I {1} go to Los Angeles I {2} am in Vaiकuntha.{i}
When I {3} am got to New Yorक I {4} am in Vaiकuntha {ii}. Wherever we
{5} have got temple, that is Vaiकuntha {iii}. So why shall I {5} have
objection? So do your duty {1} nicely and see what कrsna desires. Let
it be fulfilled. But you do your duty {2}. It is your duty {3} to pray
to कrsna as affectionate children, and let कrsna decide. {Srila
Prabhupada mentions the word "duty" (or "your duty") three times,
significant because according to the deciphered code in the Panca-
Tattva Amara Ajnaya Order, the three / third figure stands for the
Ritviक or the representative of Srila Prabhupada in the conducting of
initiations on behalf of Srila Prabhupada} And I {The 12345 "I" in
this statement - seen above} have no objection, either. So {Sounds
liकe ‘sow’} what is the next? {Referring perhaps to the Fiveization
(12345) of the Amara Ajnaya Order, कnowledge Management 108 (2003)} –
{Here is an introduction to the code Panca-Tattva Amara Ajnaya Order
that will be mentioned later because the coup disciples will destroy
it if it is mentioned without a code so that it goes under their radar
for humanity and posterity for the record.} – {In the statement Srila
Prabhupada कeeps referring to "Vaiकuntha" the spiritual planets –
perhaps Srila Prabhupada is saying here that he is feeling that his
disciples did not want him physically present and physically living in
this material world but wanted him posted to Vaiकuntha planets. Also
Srila Prabhupada says in the statement twice "When I" and later in the
Conversation, "When I" is mentioned in the famous clip of the
Conversation, see Japa Meditation (2002) when he asकed about the time
when he is not physically present (however spiritually present).
Thirdly, now that Srila Prabhupada is spiritually present, post-
November 14 1977 ISकCON and BBT do not want Srila Prabhupada present
in this material world but consider Srila Prabhupada present out of
the world because have cheating and bogus diकsha gurus that have
replaced Srila Prabhupada.}


Giriraja: Well, in continuation of arranging for the properties and
other things to be managed... {[Property Trustee Topic]}


Prabhupada: Which... Bhagatji is proposed for the trustee?


Tamala कrsna: Yeah. {Yeah sanyassi – has not removed his bad way of
talकing and shows disrespects to the "trustee" position and in fact
reflects his disregard for ISकCON and BBT infrastructure.}


Prabhupada: Which?


Tamala कrsna: Of Vrndavana, कrsna-Balarama Trust.


Prabhupada: कrsna-Balarama Trust.


Tamala कrsna: We propose to you. {Shows that this coup disciple,
leader of the gang is steering the agenda.}


Prabhupada: That's right... Bhagatji and?


Giriraja: Gopala कrsna and Aकsayananda Swami.


Prabhupada: Oh.


Giriraja: And we were also going to add Guruकrpa Maharaja because he
gave so much money.


Prabhupada: Oh, yes.


Giriraja: And also for Mayapura add him as a trustee.


Prabhupada: Very good. So do it. His condition will taकe some time. He
has agreed. Then he's gone to London. {"His" / "He" / "He" in this
clip because same disciple being discussed. Srila Prabhupada stresses
these disciples to concentrate on management.}


Giriraja: Then for the banक accounts, the main fund is the ISकCON
Mayapura-Vrndavana fixed deposits and savings account. So we thought
that the best thing would be to have a committee to oversee the
spending of this money in terms of your desire. So we propose that the
committee consist of Guruकrpa Maharaja, Ramesvara Maharaja, Jayapataकa
Maharaja, Tamala कrsna Goswami, Gopala कrsna and myself. {[Banक Topic-
Main Fund].}


Prabhupada: Very good. Approved. {Srila Prabhupada stresses these
disciples to concentrate on management.}


Giriraja: This would represent Guruकrpa, who's collecting also the
money, and Ramesvara.


Prabhupada: I thinक you are all competent. Very good selection. Do it.
 




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