17 yr old jailed after holiday flirt in Turkey

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 05:51:08 -0700,
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On 25 jun, 14:39, "William Black" wrote:

France and Germany don't want Turkey in the EC, mainly because a Muslim
state would scupper the idea of a 'United States of Europe' forever.

A Muslim state? Surely Turkey is a secular state? :-)

Heh. It is *today* - but with the problems the government out
there has got, who knows what it will be tomorrow. Or next month.
Or next year...

Martin D. Pay
Ambivalent on the Turkish question...

yeah but how many know that Turkey charge UK citizens a higher visa feel
than
other citizens of the EU? :-) They even have a separate queue for Brits at
immigration.

Are you kidding? I would have seen this queue in the airports of Istanbul,
Izmir or Antalya. As a German you do not need a visa, only your identiy card
or your passport, and Germany is in the same EU as Great Britain.

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:38:22 +0200, UC
mangled uncounted electrons thus:

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
wrote:

On 25 jun, 14:35, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 05:33:02 -0700, wrote:
On 25 jun, 14:14, "William Black" wrote:
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Rejection of Turkey's application is not racially motivated, it's
simply because Turkey does not meet basic standards of respect for
human rights and international law.
Like Bulgaria?
Confucius, he say "two rong not make a right".
Taiwan hasn't applied for EU membership - yet,
Just a matter of time - after all, Israel are in the Eurovision Song
Contest.

North African countries, Jordan and the Lebanon are eligible to apply
too.


Why EU? let's call it Roman Empire.

grin I like that. A lot... ^_^

Martin D. Pay
And it would certainly fit the way the thing is run - a mostly
powerless senate (the Parliament) pretty much under the thumb of
a ruthless Imperial family (the Commission)...

All we'd need then is a Cassius Chaerea... ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

On 25 Jun, 18:40, "Turan Fettahoglu" wrote:
Even according to German law (section 176 StGB) sexual acts on children of
less than 14 years would be a criminal offense, but in Germany the boy would
not have been put into custody. One way out would have been to say "she
claimed she was 15 and looked like 15".

I do not think this will endanger Turkey's EU ambitions, but many
hotel-keepers might like to give the boy and the girl a decent spanking, not
to mention the judge who put the boy behind bars.

Any families with not-so-young children who look for a different place to go
on holiday?

spanking might be misconstrued.....

On Jun 25, 11:24 am, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:18:06 +0100, (David Horne, _the_
Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:38:22 +0200, UC wrote:
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
wrote:
On 25 jun, 14:35, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 05:33:02 -0700, wrote:
On 25 jun, 14:14, "William Black" wrote:
wrote in message
oglegroups.com...
Rejection of Turkey's application is not racially motivated, it's
simply because Turkey does not meet basic standards of respect for
human rights and international law.


That's the public reason for rejecting their application, not the
actual one.

Like Bulgaria?
Confucius, he say "two rong not make a right".
Taiwan hasn't applied for EU membership - yet,
Just a matter of time - after all, Israel are in the Eurovision Song
Contest.

North African countries, Jordan and the Lebanon are eligible to apply
too.


After the 2004 election, a lot of us were wondering if New York could
join.

Why EU? let's call it Roman Empire.

Are you going to kick out the Scots and Scandinavians?

I was thinking the same thing!

I tried to thought of east European countries but I am not certain which ones
the Roman's conquered. I take it Rumania was part of the Roman Empire but
Hungary probabl;y wasn't.


The Roman Empire's borders ran through present-day Romania and
Hungary. Budapest was founded as a Roman city called Aquincum.

On Jun 25, 4:54 pm, Tim C. wrote:
Following up to :



On 25 jun, 14:35, Martin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 05:33:02 -0700, wrote:
On 25 jun, 14:14, "William Black" wrote:
wrote in message

groups.com...

Rejection of Turkey's application is not racially motivated, it's
simply because Turkey does not meet basic standards of respect for
human rights and international law.

Like Bulgaria?

Confucius, he say "two rong not make a right".

Taiwan hasn't applied for EU membership - yet,

Just a matter of time - after all, Israel are in the Eurovision Song
Contest.

Eurovision is - as I'm sure you know - an association of some major Euro TV
stations, which is why it's called the /Eurovision/ Song Contest as opposed
to the /European/ Song contest. Any arguments as to whether non-European
countries should be allowed to take part should be addressed to the
programme director, ARD, Germany. :-)

I confess to ****-stirring :-)

B;

In article , Turan Fettahoglu says...
Even according to German law (section 176 StGB) sexual acts on children of
less than 14 years would be a criminal offense, but in Germany the boy would
not have been put into custody. One way out would have been to say "she
claimed she was 15 and looked like 15".

Hmmm... what if both the boy and the girl were 13 and had sex? Who would
be arrested?
--

Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe

Alfred Molon:

Hmmm... what if both the boy and the girl were 13 and had sex? Who would
be arrested?

Would any of them file charges?

Martin:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:56:14 +0200, Erick T. Barkhuis
-o-m wrote:

Alfred Molon:

Hmmm... what if both the boy and the girl were 13 and had sex? Who would
be arrested?

Would any of them file charges?

Are you getting the same weather as we are getting in NL and in UK,
Erick?

Nope. They have different weather for us.
Today, I bought a new snowmobile.

In article , Erick T.
Barkhuis says...

Hmmm... what if both the boy and the girl were 13 and had sex? Who would
be arrested?

Would any of them file charges?

The parents might do so. What would happen in such a case?
--

Alfred Molon
http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe