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Old February 18th, 2005, 01:47 AM
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The article assumes that the dip in tourism is the result of security
procedures. Isn't it also possible that the dip is the result of
potential
tourists' distaste for recent American actions on the world stage?


More than possible. I just finished watching a regular TV show, World
Business. I think it is based in the UK. One of their stories featured
that problem, that top American brand names are suffering reduced
sales in the last two years. A marketing / public opinion firm queried
the public and it was confirmed that people are buying fewer American
branded products because of American foreign policy.


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Old February 18th, 2005, 02:40 AM
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spamfree wrote:

More than possible. I just finished watching a regular TV show, World
Business. I think it is based in the UK. One of their stories featured
that problem, that top American brand names are suffering reduced
sales in the last two years. A marketing / public opinion firm queried
the public and it was confirmed that people are buying fewer American
branded products because of American foreign policy.


American exports are up the past 2 years. So your story is false. Also
note that UK tourists to France is down considerably. I have traveled
to both Canada and the UK recently. On both trips people were very
friendly to me and talked more about the BS propaganda they hear on TV
as being just that...BS.
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Old February 18th, 2005, 02:40 AM
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spamfree wrote:

More than possible. I just finished watching a regular TV show, World
Business. I think it is based in the UK. One of their stories featured
that problem, that top American brand names are suffering reduced
sales in the last two years. A marketing / public opinion firm queried
the public and it was confirmed that people are buying fewer American
branded products because of American foreign policy.


American exports are up the past 2 years. So your story is false. Also
note that UK tourists to France is down considerably. I have traveled
to both Canada and the UK recently. On both trips people were very
friendly to me and talked more about the BS propaganda they hear on TV
as being just that...BS.
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Old February 18th, 2005, 02:43 AM
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Dave Smith wrote:

Remember when Bush was running down France, Germany, Canada a few few other
countries that wouldn't join his dirty little war? He didn't seem to care if
he was offending people. People were offended.


He wasn't trying to be PC. Doing so causes more harm than good in the
long run. Some Americans feel offended by statements made by those other
countries. Do you think those countries really care? Hell no.
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Old February 18th, 2005, 02:43 AM
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Dave Smith wrote:

Remember when Bush was running down France, Germany, Canada a few few other
countries that wouldn't join his dirty little war? He didn't seem to care if
he was offending people. People were offended.


He wasn't trying to be PC. Doing so causes more harm than good in the
long run. Some Americans feel offended by statements made by those other
countries. Do you think those countries really care? Hell no.
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Old February 18th, 2005, 03:33 AM
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Juliana L Holm wrote:
The Washington Post's article this morning on this topic noted that issue
as twofold, both the distaste for American actions and the hassle factor
of the new security procedures.


Both of which will be pale in comparison for the costly requiremnt for
tourists to obtain/pay for visas when the USA implements its upcoming
requirements for visa unless you have biometric passport (whatever that
means since it hasn't been defined yet).

But it doesn't make a difference. No matter how you point to americans
that their own government is destroying the fabric of that nation, they
support those changes whcih they feel are absolutely necessary to
protect against terrorism. And foreign tourism isn't seen as important
by Americans since the domestic tourism industry is strong enough to
support itself. Dineyland will survive with just US visitors, won't it ?
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Old February 18th, 2005, 03:38 AM
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PTravel wrote:
from both Mexico and Canada post-9/11. Of course, I'm a citizen, but the
process didn't seem any more onerous than the usual garbage I go through
when I fly home from international travel.


Cars assembled in the USA now cost more because of those border security
measures. The car makers had all reorganised themselves for JIT delivery
of parts to the plants, but this doesn't work anymore because of the
random delivery times due to border congestion. Both the car makers and
truckling companies suffer because of this.
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Old February 18th, 2005, 03:48 AM
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spamfree wrote:

More than possible. I just finished watching a regular TV show, World
Business. I think it is based in the UK. One of their stories featured
that problem, that top American brand names are suffering reduced
sales in the last two years. A marketing / public opinion firm queried
the public and it was confirmed that people are buying fewer American
branded products because of American foreign policy.


American exports are up the past 2 years. So your story is false. Also
note that UK tourists to France is down considerably. I have traveled to
both Canada and the UK recently. On both trips people were very friendly
to me and talked more about the BS propaganda they hear on TV as being
just that...BS.


I feel you have to also factor in the declining value of the US dollar vs
other currencies. That makes their exports considerably cheaper on world
markets, whilst making travel within the USA cheaper for tourists from other
countries. The decline in inbound tourism may have been even more severe
for the US had not the dollar dropped in relative value.

Regards

David Bennetts
Australia



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Old February 18th, 2005, 03:48 AM
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"miles" wrote in message
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spamfree wrote:

More than possible. I just finished watching a regular TV show, World
Business. I think it is based in the UK. One of their stories featured
that problem, that top American brand names are suffering reduced
sales in the last two years. A marketing / public opinion firm queried
the public and it was confirmed that people are buying fewer American
branded products because of American foreign policy.


American exports are up the past 2 years. So your story is false. Also
note that UK tourists to France is down considerably. I have traveled to
both Canada and the UK recently. On both trips people were very friendly
to me and talked more about the BS propaganda they hear on TV as being
just that...BS.


I feel you have to also factor in the declining value of the US dollar vs
other currencies. That makes their exports considerably cheaper on world
markets, whilst making travel within the USA cheaper for tourists from other
countries. The decline in inbound tourism may have been even more severe
for the US had not the dollar dropped in relative value.

Regards

David Bennetts
Australia



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Old February 18th, 2005, 03:50 AM
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:38:45 -0500, nobody wrote:
PTravel wrote:
from both Mexico and Canada post-9/11. Of course, I'm a citizen, but the
process didn't seem any more onerous than the usual garbage I go through
when I fly home from international travel.


Cars assembled in the USA now cost more because of those border security
measures. The car makers had all reorganised themselves for JIT delivery


funny. car prices haven't gone up except for purely japanese cars.
 




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