Australians are fu**ing animals. They torture 60,000 sheep on a ship.

"Frank Booth" wrote in message
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"Rainer Wolfcastle" wrote in message
om...
Sick *******s.

moron, those sheep are caught in a transport situation.

no one "tortured" them.

in fact, we love our sheep!

Frequently.
It's the Arabs who didn't think they were pretty enough.

Correct or not,This is not the right NewsGroup for bitching . Please refrain
such posts in the future,Surely there must be apropriate News Groups for
issues like this..

This group is for the benefit of tourism,therefore helping all of Aus..
Think before posting stuff.. Rod




"Rainer Wolfcastle" wrote in message
om...
Sick *******s.

Anger over 60,000 sheep stranded on ship
By Nick Squires
(Filed: 23/09/2003)


The Australian government is under growing pressure over a 'ship of
shame', carrying nearly 60,000 sheep and stranded in the waters of the
Gulf for weeks, which was refused permission to land.

The fate of the animals, carried by the transporter Cormo Express, has
gripped Australia and forced the government on to the defensive
following attacks from animal rights groups and the opposition.

It has been issuing daily statements on the animals' welfare, claiming
that they have gained weight since leaving Australia.

The agriculture minister, Warren Truss, said the sheep were reported
to be in excellent condition by a vet on board the ship. He declined
to say how many have died.


Such issues are still taken very seriously in Australia, a country
said to have "ridden the sheep's back" to economic prosperity.

The government has faced demands for the animals' immediate slaughter
after seven weeks aboard ship.

The odyssey began when Saudi Arabia rejected the sheep because six per
cent had a disease known as scabby mouth, just above the previously
agreed standard of five per cent. Canberra then offered to give the
sheep free to the United Arab Emirates. The suggestion was rejected.

Pakistan yesterday became the latest country to refuse to take the
animals, despite also being offered them free.

"We are grateful that they considered giving as a gift that huge
quantity to Pakistan, but we cannot accept unhealthy sheep," said the
farm minister, Sardar Yar Muhammad Rind.

In Australia, opposition MPs and animal rights activists say the
sheep, enduring temperatures of more than 100F, should be put down
humanely as "the best of a terrible range of options". Otherwise the
ship will become a "floating charnel house".

Critics acknowledge that slaughtering the sheep would involve huge
problems, including how to dispose of the dead animals at sea.

Bob Brown, the leader of Australia's minority Green Party, said: "To
put 57,000 sheep through a mincer and into the ocean isn't a very good
environmental outcome."

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:41:46 +1000, "Frank Booth"
wrote:

thats a pretty BAAAAAAAD joke! :-)

and yet we all flock to a thread like this.

Stop trying to pull the WOOL over our eyes or to RAM home a point whilst
catching us on the LAMB, or try to FLEECE us.....let's now all sing "There Will
Never Be Another EWE......"

DS

"David Springthorpe" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:41:46 +1000, "Frank Booth"

wrote:

thats a pretty BAAAAAAAD joke! :-)

and yet we all flock to a thread like this.

Stop trying to pull the WOOL over our eyes or to RAM home a point whilst
catching us on the LAMB, or try to FLEECE us.....let's now all sing "There
Will
Never Be Another EWE......"

DS

Like the Rodney Rude joke about the farmer taking a driving test..
Examiner: Can you make a u-turn..
Farmer: I can make her eyes pop..

SCREW YOU YOU PRICK ITS NOT OUR FAULT THEY ARE STUCK ON A FRIGGIN SHIP IT'S
THE ARABS FOR NOT WANTING THEM OVER SOMETHING SO PATHETIC

"Rainer Wolfcastle" wrote in message
om...
Sick *******s.

Anger over 60,000 sheep stranded on ship
By Nick Squires
(Filed: 23/09/2003)


The Australian government is under growing pressure over a 'ship of
shame', carrying nearly 60,000 sheep and stranded in the waters of the
Gulf for weeks, which was refused permission to land.

The fate of the animals, carried by the transporter Cormo Express, has
gripped Australia and forced the government on to the defensive
following attacks from animal rights groups and the opposition.

It has been issuing daily statements on the animals' welfare, claiming
that they have gained weight since leaving Australia.

The agriculture minister, Warren Truss, said the sheep were reported
to be in excellent condition by a vet on board the ship. He declined
to say how many have died.


Such issues are still taken very seriously in Australia, a country
said to have "ridden the sheep's back" to economic prosperity.

The government has faced demands for the animals' immediate slaughter
after seven weeks aboard ship.

The odyssey began when Saudi Arabia rejected the sheep because six per
cent had a disease known as scabby mouth, just above the previously
agreed standard of five per cent. Canberra then offered to give the
sheep free to the United Arab Emirates. The suggestion was rejected.

Pakistan yesterday became the latest country to refuse to take the
animals, despite also being offered them free.

"We are grateful that they considered giving as a gift that huge
quantity to Pakistan, but we cannot accept unhealthy sheep," said the
farm minister, Sardar Yar Muhammad Rind.

In Australia, opposition MPs and animal rights activists say the
sheep, enduring temperatures of more than 100F, should be put down
humanely as "the best of a terrible range of options". Otherwise the
ship will become a "floating charnel house".

Critics acknowledge that slaughtering the sheep would involve huge
problems, including how to dispose of the dead animals at sea.

Bob Brown, the leader of Australia's minority Green Party, said: "To
put 57,000 sheep through a mincer and into the ocean isn't a very good
environmental outcome."


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"Barry Smith" wrote in message
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| "David Springthorpe" wrote in message
| ...
| On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:41:46 +1000, "Frank Booth"
|
| wrote:
|
| thats a pretty BAAAAAAAD joke! :-)
|
| and yet we all flock to a thread like this.
|
| Stop trying to pull the WOOL over our eyes or to RAM home a point whilst
| catching us on the LAMB, or try to FLEECE us.....let's now all sing "There
| Will
| Never Be Another EWE......"
|
| DS
|
| Like the Rodney Rude joke about the farmer taking a driving test..
| Examiner: Can you make a u-turn..
| Farmer: I can make her eyes pop..
|
I really feel sheepish

F-- Off! Aussie are torturing 60,000 animals and this is on a regular
basis. No one deserves to go to that hell hole island run by a bunch
of inhumane f**kers!

The MV Cormo Express has become the Tampa of the live sheep export
trade. Unable to land at their destination of Saudi Arabia, more than
50,000 Australian sheep, loaded in early August, yesterday remained in
search of a third country to take them for money, or free.

Their sorry tale - seven weeks on the sea so far, rather than a
fortnight's trip - has raised fresh questions about Australia's
billion-dollar live animal export industry, which regularly causes
thousands of deaths and inflicts suffering that would not be tolerated
onshore.

In the face of this, what does Agriculture Minister Warren Truss say?

He quotes the on-board vet, saying the sheep - apart from about 3800
that have died - have put on weight. As the RSPCA's Hugh Wirth says,
it makes it sound like they're "enjoying some Mediterranean cruise".
They might be getting heavier, but it is not because they're living
comfortably or normally.

The Government refused to say where the ship was - until the media
found it near Dubai - claiming publicity doesn't help the hunt for a
country to take them.


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Nor did it want to give mortality figures, fearing it would get locked
into running a daily death watch. Releasing figures was left to the
ship's owners.

Truss has also condemned "unsympathetic reporting of the issues. For
commentators, reporters or animal liberation activists to paint the
situation in any way that is likely to undermine the confidence of
potential buyers is not helpful to the welfare of the sheep."

Is he serious? Is he really saying yet another cruel disaster in the
livestock export industry should be hushed up?

It is not as though this is an isolated incident, as shown by a glance
through the October 2002 report from Truss's Independent Reference
Group on the trade.

Truss asked for more advice from this group - which had recommended a
much tighter regime more than two years before - after a spate of bad
incidents.

The mortality rates during seven voyages last year - all but one to
the Middle East - we February, MV Norvantes (bound for Jakarta) 99
cattle (8.5 per cent); June, MV Becrux 880 cattle (44 per cent) and
1418 sheep (2 per cent); July, MV Corriedale Express 6119 sheep (11
per cent); July, MV Al Messilah 2173 sheep (3 per cent); July, MV Al
Shuwaikh 5800 sheep (7 per cent); July, Cormo Express 1064 (2 per
cent); and September, Al Shuwaikh 2304 sheep (4 per cent).

The group saw these as "evidence of systematic failures within the
whole live animal export program". It pointed particularly to
shipments originating from Portland, where the animals were poorly
prepared for voyages.

It also said that while some reforms had been made since its February
2000 recommendations, neither industry nor the regulators had been
ready for the "cultural change" required. In other words, a lot of
feet had been dragged. When the sheep arrived, Saudi officials claimed
scabby mouth (against which sheep are now twice vaccinated) was above
the accepted limit - a conclusion rejected by the Australian vet.

Tempting as it might be to look for a political motive, there is no
evidence of this. The Saudis have a record of turning away shiploads.
The live sheep trade to Saudi Arabia resumed only in 2000 after more
than a decade's suspension by Australia; this had followed shipments
being refused on health grounds.

The great concern, on the Government's part, is that if there is too
much hoo-ha over these sheep, the whole trade will be put in jeopardy.
It is worth $200 million to Australia in exports to Saudi Arabia. It's
the risk of a dangerous backlash that's prompted the Government to
intervene in a private transaction, frantically searching for a
destination, even though the sheep, with a Saudi owner, are no longer
Australian sheep but Saudi refugees.

Already exports to Saudi Arabia have been suspended until this is
sorted out. The Government couldn't afford the spectacle of further
ships drifting about.

There are now two issues: what should be done with these animals? And,
is this trade too inhumane to be pursued?

Wirth argues that the Government won't be able to find a port for the
sheep and it's impractical to bring them home, so they should be
progressively put down.

But the Australian Veterinary Association, in a rather harrowing news
release yesterday, said mass slaughter could be "an animal welfare and
environmental disaster". "There will be thousands of litres of blood",
it said; animal rights groups "have not considered that the sheep may
have to watch the slaughter, nor have they considered the welfare of
the people who would have to carry this out".

Both the Government and the industry argue against putting down the
sheep, still hopeful a destination can be found. The Government
doesn't want the sheep repatriated, because it's a long voyage and
there are quarantine difficulties; the ship's owners have canvassed
the possibility of returning them to Fremantle, although they'd much
prefer to offload them regionally.

Greens senator Bob Brown yesterday called for the ship to be ordered
back at once, saying any quarantine problems are Truss's. Meanwhile
Australian authorities are trying to continue negotiations with the
Pakistanis, despite their saying they won't take the sheep.

Animal rights advocate Peter Singer, who calls for euthanasia in this
case, insists the entire live trade is a "disgrace" that should be
stopped.

"It's a terrible ordeal for the animals at the best of times. They
have a nightmare voyage, and then they get treated brutally after they
land, as if they were just sacks of wheat rather than living, feeling
animals. Every year or two, there is another major scandal . . . The
federal minister says that he will implement reforms, but then . . .
the same thing, or something worse, happens again."

The RSPCA opposes the live export industry, but Wirth recognises that
neither side of politics will end it. But he wants much more control
over it.

So does the Australian public. Even if Truss can solve the Cormo
Express problem quickly, what has happened in this and many other
instances should weigh on our conscience.


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"M00SE" wrote in message ...
Correct or not,This is not the right NewsGroup for bitching . Please refrain
such posts in the future,Surely there must be apropriate News Groups for
issues like this..

This group is for the benefit of tourism,therefore helping all of Aus..
Think before posting stuff.. Rod




"Rainer Wolfcastle" wrote in message
om...
Sick *******s.

Anger over 60,000 sheep stranded on ship
By Nick Squires
(Filed: 23/09/2003)


The Australian government is under growing pressure over a 'ship of
shame', carrying nearly 60,000 sheep and stranded in the waters of the
Gulf for weeks, which was refused permission to land.

The fate of the animals, carried by the transporter Cormo Express, has
gripped Australia and forced the government on to the defensive
following attacks from animal rights groups and the opposition.

It has been issuing daily statements on the animals' welfare, claiming
that they have gained weight since leaving Australia.

The agriculture minister, Warren Truss, said the sheep were reported
to be in excellent condition by a vet on board the ship. He declined
to say how many have died.


Such issues are still taken very seriously in Australia, a country
said to have "ridden the sheep's back" to economic prosperity.

The government has faced demands for the animals' immediate slaughter
after seven weeks aboard ship.

The odyssey began when Saudi Arabia rejected the sheep because six per
cent had a disease known as scabby mouth, just above the previously
agreed standard of five per cent. Canberra then offered to give the
sheep free to the United Arab Emirates. The suggestion was rejected.

Pakistan yesterday became the latest country to refuse to take the
animals, despite also being offered them free.

"We are grateful that they considered giving as a gift that huge
quantity to Pakistan, but we cannot accept unhealthy sheep," said the
farm minister, Sardar Yar Muhammad Rind.

In Australia, opposition MPs and animal rights activists say the
sheep, enduring temperatures of more than 100F, should be put down
humanely as "the best of a terrible range of options". Otherwise the
ship will become a "floating charnel house".

Critics acknowledge that slaughtering the sheep would involve huge
problems, including how to dispose of the dead animals at sea.

Bob Brown, the leader of Australia's minority Green Party, said: "To
put 57,000 sheep through a mincer and into the ocean isn't a very good
environmental outcome."

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 18:57:45 +1000, "M00SE"
wrote:

Correct or not,This is not the right NewsGroup for bitching . Please refrain
such posts in the future,Surely there must be apropriate News Groups for
issues like this..

He does it in other inappropriate ones too, eg ras.f1. Welcome to the
world of Frank...

This group is for the benefit of tourism,therefore helping all of Aus..
Think before posting stuff.. Rod

That would be a novelty, eh, Frank...?

David

What children you stupid Arab. Aussies are torturing 60,000 sheep.
Australians are sick *******s like you.

"Mat salleh" wrote in message ...
Baby killing americans need those sheep to get to sleep at night. Funny how
sheep in trouble causes such a stir, but dead babies and children nary a
tear.

"Rainer Wolfcastle" wrote in message
om...
Sick *******s.

Anger over 60,000 sheep stranded on ship
By Nick Squires
(Filed: 23/09/2003)

The Australian government is under growing pressure over a 'ship of
shame', carrying nearly 60,000 sheep and stranded in the waters of the
Gulf for weeks, which was refused permission to land.

The fate of the animals, carried by the transporter Cormo Express, has
gripped Australia and forced the government on to the defensive
following attacks from animal rights groups and the opposition.

It has been issuing daily statements on the animals' welfare, claiming
that they have gained weight since leaving Australia.

The agriculture minister, Warren Truss, said the sheep were reported
to be in excellent condition by a vet on board the ship. He declined
to say how many have died.


Such issues are still taken very seriously in Australia, a country
said to have "ridden the sheep's back" to economic prosperity.

The government has faced demands for the animals' immediate slaughter
after seven weeks aboard ship.

The odyssey began when Saudi Arabia rejected the sheep because six per
cent had a disease known as scabby mouth, just above the previously
agreed standard of five per cent. Canberra then offered to give the
sheep free to the United Arab Emirates. The suggestion was rejected.

Pakistan yesterday became the latest country to refuse to take the
animals, despite also being offered them free.

"We are grateful that they considered giving as a gift that huge
quantity to Pakistan, but we cannot accept unhealthy sheep," said the
farm minister, Sardar Yar Muhammad Rind.

In Australia, opposition MPs and animal rights activists say the
sheep, enduring temperatures of more than 100F, should be put down
humanely as "the best of a terrible range of options". Otherwise the
ship will become a "floating charnel house".

Critics acknowledge that slaughtering the sheep would involve huge
problems, including how to dispose of the dead animals at sea.

Bob Brown, the leader of Australia's minority Green Party, said: "To
put 57,000 sheep through a mincer and into the ocean isn't a very good
environmental outcome."

Frank Booth wrote:

"Classic Car Fair" wrote in message
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