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Cofirmed by the UK for Obama and his minions: Smokers have lowerIQs
SPierce wrote:
"William Black" wrote in message ... SPierce wrote: "mikeos" wrote in message ... On 04/04/2010 23:52, SPierce wrote: Well I would vote for Winston Churchill (smoker/drinker) over Adolf Hitler (non-smoking teetotal vegetarian). # As someone who suffered from both of them, how do you equate a man who brought a country out of poverty into a first class nation in six years to one who destroyed and Empire in five by winning a war against him...and using Americans and Russians to help him do it. Nazi nostalgia, I love it! # It takes more than nostalgia to bring a poverty stricken nation with no gold reserves to a bustling first class economy in six years. It didn't end well though... # No it didn't end well, for them or us. We did a lot better than they did. For a start we didn't have a great big Russian army camped on us for the next half century... -- William Black "Any number under six" The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff. |
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Cofirmed by the UK for Obama and his minions: Smokers have lower IQs
"William Black" wrote in message ... (snipped) We did a lot better than they did. For a start we didn't have a great big Russian army camped on us for the next half century... # No * WE * didn't do better than them. That's the whole point. I'm talking about the economic competence of both leaders. Britain financially was in a mess with aristocrats running the place when the Germans were in full employment created by a commoner. Both had *voices* that inspired people. About the only thing they had in common, but one of them actually achieved an economic miracle without any gold . In my opinion the reason Churchill hated him so much. All it took was for an American banker to exploit Churchill's hatred by paying him to write critically about him. The war was a different scenario altogether. And * We* only just managed to stay afloat until the Americans came in. |
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Cofirmed by the UK for Obama and his minions: Smokers have lower IQs
On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:25:34 -0700 (PDT), sutartsorric
wrote: I doubt that even Obama could smoke enough to give himself a lower IQ than the previous president. How about someone who can't spell Syracuse and who thinks there are 57 states? |
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Cofirmed by the UK for Obama and his minions: Smokers have lowerIQs
On 05/04/2010 22:42, SPierce wrote:
wrote in message ... On 04/04/2010 23:52, SPierce wrote: Well I would vote for Winston Churchill (smoker/drinker) over Adolf Hitler (non-smoking teetotal vegetarian). # As someone who suffered from both of them, how do you equate a man who brought a country out of poverty into a first class nation in six years to one who destroyed and Empire in five by winning a war against him...and using Americans and Russians to help him do it. Nazi nostalgia, I love it! # It takes more than nostalgia to bring a poverty stricken nation with no gold reserves to a bustling first class economy in six years. And to have a thankful population because of it. Churchill achieved nothing people were thankful for. Well we were pretty grateful for being spared the death camps. |
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Cofirmed by the UK for Obama and his minions: Smokers have lowerIQs
SPierce wrote:
"William Black" wrote in message ... SPierce wrote: "mikeos" wrote in message ... On 04/04/2010 23:52, SPierce wrote: Well I would vote for Winston Churchill (smoker/drinker) over Adolf Hitler (non-smoking teetotal vegetarian). # As someone who suffered from both of them, how do you equate a man who brought a country out of poverty into a first class nation in six years to one who destroyed and Empire in five by winning a war against him...and using Americans and Russians to help him do it. Nazi nostalgia, I love it! # It takes more than nostalgia to bring a poverty stricken nation with no gold reserves to a bustling first class economy in six years. It didn't end well though... # No it didn't end well, for them or us. A different story altogether though. I was considering the economic COMPETENCE of the leaders to manage the country for the betterment of their people. Churchill had no history of improving his country. That was much the same verdict of the British public. He was only fit to be a war time prime minister. He In the three general elections he ran as PM he never got as many votes as the Labour Party. Our peculiar election system allowed him a win in 1951 even though the Labour Party won than a million votes more than the Conservative Party. That's even more votes than Gore won against Bush. |
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Cofirmed by the UK for Obama and his minions: Smokers have lowerIQs
SPierce wrote:
"William Black" wrote in message ... (snipped) We did a lot better than they did. For a start we didn't have a great big Russian army camped on us for the next half century... # No * WE * didn't do better than them. That's the whole point. I'm talking about the economic competence of both leaders. Britain financially was in a mess with aristocrats running the place when the Germans were in full employment created by a commoner. But they had to go to war to pay for it. It was the looting of Europe that paid for German pre war prosperity. -- William Black "Any number under six" The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff. |
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Cofirmed by the UK for Obama and his minions: Smokers have lowerIQs
William Black wrote:
SPierce wrote: "William Black" wrote in message ... (snipped) We did a lot better than they did. For a start we didn't have a great big Russian army camped on us for the next half century... # No * WE * didn't do better than them. That's the whole point. I'm talking about the economic competence of both leaders. Britain financially was in a mess with aristocrats running the place when the Germans were in full employment created by a commoner. But they had to go to war to pay for it. It was the looting of Europe that paid for German pre war prosperity. I defer to you on all things Indian, William, but not on other subjects. German industry was virtually wiped out by Allied bombing in WW2, the Russians in particular looted their sector ruthlessly. However, because the Allies refused to let the Germans re-arm we removed an enormous burden from their shoulders. Combine this with the fact that they had almost a clean slate when it came to rebuilding their industry and that, more than your quite incorrect statement is the reason, Germany rose from the ashes so quickly. A friend spent a year in Hamburg from 1955. Ten years before Hamburg had been devastated by the same phenomena that raised Dresden. Nearly all it's buildings had been smashed and 40,000 citizens lost their lives. My friend didn't find any trace of the bombing. Hamburg was a beautiful city that looked as if it had not been touched by war. When he cam back to work in the City he saw quite a few bomb sites left unattended. We didn't look as if we had won anything. |
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Cofirmed by the UK for Obama and his minions: Smokers have lowerIQs
John Rennie wrote:
William Black wrote: SPierce wrote: "William Black" wrote in message ... (snipped) We did a lot better than they did. For a start we didn't have a great big Russian army camped on us for the next half century... # No * WE * didn't do better than them. That's the whole point. I'm talking about the economic competence of both leaders. Britain financially was in a mess with aristocrats running the place when the Germans were in full employment created by a commoner. But they had to go to war to pay for it. It was the looting of Europe that paid for German pre war prosperity. I defer to you on all things Indian, William, but not on other subjects. German industry was virtually wiped out by Allied bombing in WW2, the Russians in particular looted their sector ruthlessly. However, because the Allies refused to let the Germans re-arm we removed an enormous burden from their shoulders. Combine this with the fact that they had almost a clean slate when it came to rebuilding their industry and that, more than your quite incorrect statement is the reason, Germany rose from the ashes so quickly. Well yes, I agree. But we're talking about pre war Germany. -- William Black "Any number under six" The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff. |
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Cofirmed by the UK for Obama and his minions: Smokers have lowerIQs
On 06/04/2010 13:47, John Rennie wrote:
A friend spent a year in Hamburg from 1955. Ten years before Hamburg had been devastated by the same phenomena that raised Dresden. Nearly all it's buildings had been smashed and 40,000 citizens lost their lives. My friend didn't find any trace of the bombing. Hamburg was a beautiful city that looked as if it had not been touched by war. When he cam back to work in the City he saw quite a few bomb sites left unattended. We didn't look as if we had won anything. I used to work in Old Bailey, opposite the last remaining bomb site in London, in Ludgate Hill. It was only finally built on about five years ago. |
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Cofirmed by the UK for Obama and his minions: Smokers havelower IQs
From: William Black Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retireme nt,rec.tr avel.europe Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:21:31 +0100 Subject: Cofirmed by the UK for Obama and his minions: Smokers have lower IQs SPierce wrote: "William Black" wrote in message ... (snipped) We did a lot better than they did. For a start we didn't have a great big Russian army camped on us for the next half century... # No * WE * didn't do better than them. That's the whole point. I'm talking about the economic competence of both leaders. Britain financially was in a mess with aristocrats running the place when the Germans were in full employment created by a commoner. But they had to go to war to pay for it. It was the looting of Europe that paid for German pre war prosperity. I would prefer to speak of the looting that occurred during the war in the occupied countries. With France, Germany was punitive in this respect. They pegged the franc to the mark at a highly unfavorable exchange rate. They systematically looted Jewish properties - apartments and furniture in Paris, businesses - and shipped what they had looted to Germany, for the use of the Germans. After the war the French Jews tried to recover their stolen property. In the vast majority of cases, this proved impossible. Donna Evleth -- William Black "Any number under six" The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff. |
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