Update on DC aerial image censorship

12 String wrote:
snip /

But if you want to see Cheney's lawn at full resolution,
just use MapQuest in aerial image mode. All three of the
DC locations are at full resolution. However -- this is
really odd -- the Treasury building (next door to the White
House) has been obliterated by a seemingly misplaced image
which is a copy of one immediately to the southwest.

--
Charles Packerhttp://cpacker.org/whatnews
mailboxATcpacker.org

Where you this agitated when Google worked with the CHINKS to put
dissidents in JAIL who used their site?

Which has just what to do with what?

Uh, as I recall Google said --hell no-- however it was the rat traitor Jerry
Yang who stole and then founded Yahoo! that gave data to the Communist
Chinese Military (CCM) who went after a Chinese free speech advocate.

As opposed to AT&T and Sprint who also gave data to the government in
violation of US laws? As opposed to Bush who did exactly what the
Chinese government did?

Nobody knows if the CCM tyrants executed the guy or if he is now wasting
away at forced labor or what

Or rotting in a prison like Guantanamo for years?

--
Ray Fischer

Anonymous wrote:
Ron Hunter wrote:

GoogleEarth, and similar facilities are a serious security concern, both
to the governments of the world, and to many individuals who feel they
have reached a state of the art that seriously compromises personal, and
national safety.

Utter nonsense. What security experts call "security theaters". Great
movie plot material (and obviously derived from over exposure to the
same), but useless in any practical context outside the entertainment
industry.

If a Google Earth aerial photo needs to be "scrubbed" then there's a
huge vulnerability that allowed it to be taken in the first place. Real
terrorists will sooner exploit that than rely on horribly dated intel.
Consequently, the only people who will actually learn anything from
Google Earth are people who aren't a threat anyway, and it won't be
useful in any practical way. But it sure will allow the mind to wander.


Believe that if you want to, but I am glad YOU aren't in charge of
security for the country.

Nomen wrote on Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:10:05 +0100 (CET):


NN I'll bet $20 you think restrictions of liquids in carry on
NN luggage make you safer too, don't you? Never mind the fact
NN that not a single entity on the planet has been able to
NN successfully manufacture an explosive out of liquids in any

A 3 ounce bottle of nitroglycerine might make quite a bang but
there is the distinct possiblility that it would explode on
going through the checks.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

"Ray Fischer" wrote in message
...
12 String wrote:
snip /

But if you want to see Cheney's lawn at full resolution,
just use MapQuest in aerial image mode. All three of the
DC locations are at full resolution. However -- this is
really odd -- the Treasury building (next door to the White
House) has been obliterated by a seemingly misplaced image
which is a copy of one immediately to the southwest.

--
Charles Packerhttp://cpacker.org/whatnews
mailboxATcpacker.org

Where you this agitated when Google worked with the CHINKS to put
dissidents in JAIL who used their site?

Which has just what to do with what?

Uh, as I recall Google said --hell no-- however it was the rat traitor
Jerry
Yang who stole and then founded Yahoo! that gave data to the Communist
Chinese Military (CCM) who went after a Chinese free speech advocate.

As opposed to AT&T and Sprint who also gave data to the government in
violation of US laws? As opposed to Bush who did exactly what the
Chinese government did?

Nobody knows if the CCM tyrants executed the guy or if he is now wasting
away at forced labor or what

Or rotting in a prison like Guantanamo for years?

Guantanomo is a palace, compared to most of the prisons anywhere else in the
world. "Rotting" is hardly the word, most of the inmates would be DEAD if
any other country had captured them.





--
Ray Fischer

sharx35 wrote:

Guantanomo is a palace, compared to most of the prisons anywhere else in the
world. "Rotting" is hardly the word, most of the inmates would be DEAD if
any other country had captured them.


The prisoners in Guantanamo can't even kill themselves. They'd like to.

Over a hundred of them are strapped to their cots and fed with tubes.

They are even prevented from throwing up in order to ensure they get
nourishment.

What an abomination Washington has become.


http://tinyurl.com/3e2jgy

not a single entity on the planet has been able to
successfully manufacture an explosive out of liquids in any...

On Korean Air Flight 858, in 1987, a liquid explosive bomb killed 115
passengers. There have been other incidents, too.

The current restrictions were put in place after British police
uncovered a plot to bring down 10 commercial flights using liquid
explosives hidden in carry-on luggage and in beverage containers.

Nomen Nescio wrote:
Ron Hunter wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Ron Hunter wrote:

GoogleEarth, and similar facilities are a serious security concern, both
to the governments of the world, and to many individuals who feel they
have reached a state of the art that seriously compromises personal, and
national safety.
Utter nonsense. What security experts call "security theaters". Great
movie plot material (and obviously derived from over exposure to the
same), but useless in any practical context outside the entertainment
industry.

If a Google Earth aerial photo needs to be "scrubbed" then there's a
huge vulnerability that allowed it to be taken in the first place. Real
terrorists will sooner exploit that than rely on horribly dated intel.
Consequently, the only people who will actually learn anything from
Google Earth are people who aren't a threat anyway, and it won't be
useful in any practical way. But it sure will allow the mind to wander.

Believe that if you want to, but I am glad YOU aren't in charge of
security for the country.

Why? Do you feel safer having the people who actually are in charge of
it placate the irrational fears you have as a result of your lacking
education, with useless goblin hunts?

I'll bet $20 you think restrictions of liquids in carry on luggage make
you safer too, don't you? Never mind the fact that not a single entity
on the planet has been able to successfully manufacture an explosive
out of liquids in any and environment or time frame that could remotely
be equated with an actual flight or anything, just bob that fuzzy head
of yours up and down, let loose your bleating approval, and convince
yourself you're "safer" because your handlers say you are.

And all the while sheeple, people are smuggling explosives, guns,
knives, and all manner shape and for of contraband through US air
terminals **every single day**. That's the net result of your precious
security theater sonny... nothing but the false sense of security most
such horrid misapplications of resources produce.

If you think terrorists get intel from Google Earth you're an imbecile.
It's both too dated in most cases and too easily manipulated. The image
of some raghead clicking pas his Matrix screen saver and pulling up
real time images of Washington might make for a dandy opening chapter
in some Tom Clancy novel, but in real life those sorts of folk know
better, and get their intel from more reliable and useful sources.

And if you have forgotten nitro glycerin, the terrorists haven't. It is
also possible to mix liquids to form any number of toxic gases.

And if you really believe terrorists can't make use of such things as
Google Earth, you are living in some other universe. And while we are
on Clancy novels, read "Debt of Honor", and see just what happens at the
end. Hint: An airliner is flown into the Capitol building. Of course
that is just an imaginary scenario, and anyone would be a fool to
believe it could really happen, right?

m II wrote:
sharx35 wrote:

Guantanomo is a palace, compared to most of the prisons anywhere else in the
world. "Rotting" is hardly the word, most of the inmates would be DEAD if
any other country had captured them.


The prisoners in Guantanamo can't even kill themselves. They'd like to.

Over a hundred of them are strapped to their cots and fed with tubes.

They are even prevented from throwing up in order to ensure they get
nourishment.

What an abomination Washington has become.


http://tinyurl.com/3e2jgy




Yeah, personally, I approve of the Afghan method of handling prisoners,
use them to cushion the tank treads for a smoother ride.

sharx35 wrote:
"Ray Fischer" wrote in message
12 String wrote:

But if you want to see Cheney's lawn at full resolution,
just use MapQuest in aerial image mode. All three of the
DC locations are at full resolution. However -- this is
really odd -- the Treasury building (next door to the White
House) has been obliterated by a seemingly misplaced image
which is a copy of one immediately to the southwest.

--
Charles Packerhttp://cpacker.org/whatnews
mailboxATcpacker.org

Where you this agitated when Google worked with the CHINKS to put
dissidents in JAIL who used their site?

Which has just what to do with what?

Uh, as I recall Google said --hell no-- however it was the rat traitor
Jerry
Yang who stole and then founded Yahoo! that gave data to the Communist
Chinese Military (CCM) who went after a Chinese free speech advocate.

As opposed to AT&T and Sprint who also gave data to the government in
violation of US laws? As opposed to Bush who did exactly what the
Chinese government did?

Nobody knows if the CCM tyrants executed the guy or if he is now wasting
away at forced labor or what

Or rotting in a prison like Guantanamo for years?

Guantanomo is a palace,

You just proved to everybody that you're a stupid asshole who will
justify any crime at all in order to justify your right-wing cult.

--
Ray Fischer

Ron Hunter wrote:
m II wrote:
sharx35 wrote:

Guantanomo is a palace, compared to most of the prisons anywhere else in the
world. "Rotting" is hardly the word, most of the inmates would be DEAD if
any other country had captured them.


The prisoners in Guantanamo can't even kill themselves. They'd like to.

Over a hundred of them are strapped to their cots and fed with tubes.

They are even prevented from throwing up in order to ensure they get
nourishment.

What an abomination Washington has become.


http://tinyurl.com/3e2jgy

Yeah, personally, I approve of the Afghan method of handling prisoners,
use them to cushion the tank treads for a smoother ride.

I'm sure that there were many nazis who felt the same way about Jews.

--
Ray Fischer