How to pack light, some tips

"William Black" wrote:
There's very little you can't buy in most European cities.
You can just leave everything at home and take a shed
load of cash and a bundle of gold credit cards.

.... and much of what you can buy in abroad will have more
cachet than what you have in your closet, anyway.

Any ideas (for my wife) on how to pack for these limits:
US-Europe... 23kg (50lbs) ea. (2 allowed);
Inside Europe... a total of 20 kg (44 lbs); and
Inside Greece... a total of 15lkg. (33lbs.)....
plus a carry-on.
I said, pack for the least weight allowed, which went
over like a lead-balloon. =R=

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:41:34 -0000,
wrote:

A better idea is to copy just the pages that one wants

That's a good alternative, especially if you only need a few pages.

James

It seems a little wrong to chop down an extra forest rather
than just cut out and carry the bits I want. To each their
own.


Cheers, Alan, Australia
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:24:27 -0700,
wrote:


If I was in shape to ride a bicycle all over the place
I'd just ride the damned bicycle and not bother with
the public transportation.

Nice in theory but not always practical, due to big distances between
cities, mountain ranges, urban areas with heavy traffic, etc.

James

I did 11000km through Europe in 9 weeks by car on the 2003
trip; I might have lasted the first 1000 on a bike but I
suspect my wife would have quit at the 500 mark if she had
started at all:-)

The ride from Brisbane to Singapore would have been fun.
Pedalo?


Cheers, Alan, Australia
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erilar wrote:
In article ,
"J. Clarke" wrote:

wrote:
I find no pleasure in tearing up books.

I feel the same way, but it's a lot easier to carry only the pages
you
need. And guide books are kind of disposable items anyway, since
the
info becomes dated.


A better idea is to copy just the pages that one wants

That's a good alternative, especially if you only need a few
pages.

But be careful with that--copy paper is generally a heavier grade
than what travel books are printed on and it's easy for the copies
to build up to as much weight as the book. Copies aren't free
either. Might turn out to be cheaper to just get two copies of the
book, one to cut up and one to keep.

Not if you copy only the parts you want and do it at home. Doesn't
BEGIN to weigh what any book does.

Copies at home aren't free either and if you're using an inkjet
all-in-one they run when they get wet too.

As to the weight, that depends on how much of the book you need. If
you're going to one town for a few days maybe.

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Alan S wrote:
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:24:27 -0700,
wrote:


If I was in shape to ride a bicycle all over the place
I'd just ride the damned bicycle and not bother with
the public transportation.

Nice in theory but not always practical, due to big distances
between
cities, mountain ranges, urban areas with heavy traffic, etc.

James

I did 11000km through Europe in 9 weeks by car on the 2003
trip; I might have lasted the first 1000 on a bike but I
suspect my wife would have quit at the 500 mark if she had
started at all:-)

The ride from Brisbane to Singapore would have been fun.
Pedalo?

Did you carry a bike or just drive the car where you needed to go?


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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:03:09 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

Alan S wrote:
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 07:24:27 -0700,
wrote:


If I was in shape to ride a bicycle all over the place
I'd just ride the damned bicycle and not bother with
the public transportation.

Nice in theory but not always practical, due to big distances
between
cities, mountain ranges, urban areas with heavy traffic, etc.

James

I did 11000km through Europe in 9 weeks by car on the 2003
trip; I might have lasted the first 1000 on a bike but I
suspect my wife would have quit at the 500 mark if she had
started at all:-)

The ride from Brisbane to Singapore would have been fun.
Pedalo?

Did you carry a bike or just drive the car where you needed to go?


I drove various cars through much of Europe, UK, Eire, USA,
New Zealand, Fiji; the response about bikes was not meant
dead seriously:-)

There is no way I could have covered the distances I did on
a bike, even if I was a damn sight fitter and stronger than
I am. Nothing wrong with bikes - I just wanted to see and
visit more in my timeframe.

For major cities we left the car at the hotel and used
public transport; most major cities we visited have
excellent systems for all-day tickets if you investigate on
arrival. For smaller towns we walked or drove as
appropriate.


Cheers, Alan, Australia
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:58:18 +0300, Markku Grönroos
wrote:


"Spehro Pefhany" kirjoitti
viestissä:nl3jc3pki22123egcss1f7vrbitem9vb0v@4ax. com...

I carry a small bottle of shampoo, because I don't like the free
stuff. Maybe 200ml, which could last for several weeks. Not having a
mobile phone seems silly.

Why? When travelling on holiday, you need a phone. I don't need one.

I find a phone to keep in touch with people even more useful when I'm
traveling than it is at home. It also serves as a camera, an alarm
clock, a GPS, and a way to check my emails. Something so compact that
does all that and only weighs around 100g easily justifies being taken
along on any trips I make.

Chris

"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
i.fi...

"Spehro Pefhany" kirjoitti
om...

I carry a small bottle of shampoo, because I don't like the free
stuff. Maybe 200ml, which could last for several weeks. Not having a
mobile phone seems silly.

Why? When travelling on holiday, you need a phone. I don't need one.

Likewise. I just can't understand why SOME people ALWAYS THINK they have to
be able to be INSTANTLY electronically linked to the rest of the world for
either incoming OR outgoing calls. Personally, that is part of the GLORY of
vacation...getting OUT OF TOUCH.

"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:58:18 +0300, the renowned Markku Grönroos
wrote:


"Spehro Pefhany" kirjoitti
viestissä:nl3jc3pki22123egcss1f7vrbitem9vb0v@4ax .com...

I carry a small bottle of shampoo, because I don't like the free
stuff. Maybe 200ml, which could last for several weeks. Not having a
mobile phone seems silly.

Why? When travelling on holiday, you need a phone. I don't need one.

You never visit anyone when you're on holiday?
You don't have anyone depending on you back home?
You don't need to make reservations at a restaurant when you're
travelling?
You don't ever trip a credit card security flag and have to call?

Any single one of those makes carrying a modern GSM phone well worth
it, assuming you're mostly travelling where they will work.

Of course if your holiday consists of travelling to a set location or
two and staying in a fixed hotel, a cell phone may be a needless
luxury, particularly if you don't have a demanding job, but in that
case, the extra weight is of little consequence.


Demanding job, does your ****ING contract STATE that you have to be ALWAYS
in touch? Every motel or hotel or resort that I have EVER stayed in has
TELEPHONES. I simply make any calls I need to do every morning or evening
from the hotel I am in. I leave employers, family, friends, etc a copy of my
itinerary, including WHERE I will be each day and the phone numbers of my
hotels. That is a LOT cheaper than getting a cell phone and carting it
around.




Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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"Chris Blunt" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:58:18 +0300, Markku Grönroos
wrote:


"Spehro Pefhany" kirjoitti
viestissä:nl3jc3pki22123egcss1f7vrbitem9vb0v@4ax .com...

I carry a small bottle of shampoo, because I don't like the free
stuff. Maybe 200ml, which could last for several weeks. Not having a
mobile phone seems silly.

Why? When travelling on holiday, you need a phone. I don't need one.

I find a phone to keep in touch with people even more useful when I'm
traveling than it is at home. It also serves as a camera, an alarm
clock, a GPS, and a way to check my emails. Something so compact that
does all that and only weighs around 100g easily justifies being taken
along on any trips I make.

Chris

They take lousy quality pictures. No, you do NOT need GPS unless you are,
perhaps, on safari and surely the OPERATORS of the safari will take care of
THAT need. E-mails can be checked at any one of the MILLIONS of cyber cafes
in the world.