Air Canada terminal changes at YYZ Toronto

The new terminal 1 was opened this morning. Morning TV shows had
many pictures.
The last flight out from old T1 was Air Canada flight 862 to London,
England at about 23.00 last night.
The first flight to land at new T1 was reported to be a red-eye
flight from Vancouver.

Passengers were quite impressed - of course, it wasn't a peak time.
The cost to airlines is a problem as the airlines try to provide the
cheap flights wanted by passengers.
Parking can be expensive if you park in the wrong area. Twenty-four
hours in the short term lot can cost $77 Canadian ($58 US).

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Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada
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On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 15:10:41 +0000, Harry Dodsworth wrote:
The new terminal 1 was opened this morning. Morning TV shows had
many pictures.
The last flight out from old T1 was Air Canada flight 862 to London,
England at about 23.00 last night.
The first flight to land at new T1 was reported to be a red-eye
flight from Vancouver.

Yep "Uncle Miltie" was on hand to greet the first flight. The first pax
got ticket(s) to anywhere Air Canada flies. (Not sure if it included the
return leg :-). Other pax on the first flight got vouchers for "Air
Canada" luggage.

Parking can be expensive if you park in the wrong area. Twenty-four
hours in the short term lot can cost $77 Canadian ($58 US).

I remember the T1-old having parking meters that you had to feed lots
of coins every 30 minutes. Kind of a pain when you are picking up a friend
and their plane decides to be delayed!

Short term parking is on levels 3-6 and the rate is higher to discourage
people from having those long good-byes at the airport since most
check-ins are 2+ hours before departure on international flights. Access
to the terminal is from level 4 and 5. (5 has a moving walkway)

The same structure also has "long term" parking levels that only charges
$21.75 max/day or $108.75/week. These are levels (2, 7 & 8).

Short-term parking rates actually starts at $2.25/half-hour with
escalating rates after 1 hour. ($2.25 is actually cheaper than
half-hour at the T2 lot and the rate is on below what downtown lots charge.)

Rental Car are in level 1 and the companies' desks are all located in the
'central lobby' of level 1 of the parking structure.

howard
ps. remove the Uppercase char. for my real address

H Lem wrote:

The same structure also has "long term" parking levels that only charges
$21.75 max/day or $108.75/week. These are levels (2, 7 & 8).

Is there cheaper parking elsewhere, like off airport property? I might
have to fly out of there in a month or so, and park my car for a week or
so.

H Lem wrote:
Short term parking is on levels 3-6 and the rate is higher to discourage
people from having those long good-byes at the airport since most
check-ins are 2+ hours before departure on international flights.

Quite the opposite. This 6 billion $ white elephant has bills to pay. Parking
fees are a major source of revenus. And they much prefer getting many
customers who stay about 1.5 hours rather than people who use long term
parking lot and pay much less during same period. Also, they will want family
members to spend as much time at airport spending money at the stores (airport
acts as shopping centre with rent that is proportional to sales).

I can understand why GTAA really wanted to give Tnew to westjet and
conveniently forget about previous agreements with AC. When you consider that
AC might go belly up and will downsize if it survives, giving the new terminal
to a succesful airline that is growing would make business sense, especially
when GTAA is desperate to generate sufficient funds to pay for their expensive folly.

On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 04:42:17 +0000, James Robinson wrote:

Is there cheaper parking elsewhere, like off airport property? I might
have to fly out of there in a month or so, and park my car for a week or
so.

There are lots around the airport. The airport itself has a giant off site
lot at 407 and Airport Rd. ($47.20/week with coupon found at
http://www.gtaa.com/documents/parkin...coupon_web.jpg).

The airport's web site www.gtaa.com has a page for parking options with
pointers to several off-site lots.

I like to use Park'nFly as it has three lots (valet, self-park
and economy.) Most times I will use the self-park or valet lot. Valet lot
is nice in the winter as they will have the car cleared of snow and
warmed up. :-) Most travel agents have a Park'nFly discount coupon of
$20-30 off depending on lot. The have a web site where you can usually
print the discount coupon. Cost is $59.95, $44.95 and 24.95. Of course
the cheapy lot is further away, but it usually pretty quick to the
terminals. (aeroplan partner too) The web coupon is at
www.parknfly.ca/toronto_cust.html On return, their buses cruise the
arrivals areas to pick you up.

On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 02:55:22 -0400, nobody wrote:

Quite the opposite. This 6 billion $ white elephant has bills to pay. Parking
fees are a major source of revenus. And they much prefer getting many
customers who stay about 1.5 hours rather than people who use long term
parking lot and pay much less during same period. Also, they will want family

Mirabel IS THE mother of all white elephants! T1-new, while expensive is
needed as T1 is 40 years old and exceeds it's capacity. T-2 is too busy
and too confusing for travellers. Recent send-off for relatives to HKG is
a good example. The evening HKG departure leaves from T-2 (YYZ-YVR-HKG)
via the domestic area. On arrival, the AC person says you can check-in
here using the kiosks if ticket was bought with CC or aeroplan. Relatives
paid cash for tickets, so you have to walk the complete length of T-2 to
check-in. After you get your boarding pass, you need to walk all the way
back to domestic check-in area to go through security to get to your gate.
I estimate that 80-90% of the passengers on that flight have to do the
walk.

members to spend as much time at airport spending money at the stores
(airport acts as shopping centre with rent that is proportional to sales).

Your view about family good-byes is what happens in reality! People
(myself included) do want to say their good-byes at the airport. The
airport, during the busy periods, uses the media, to ask people not to
come to the airport to say their good-byes. I guess they do a 'bad job'.

Problem is for T2 and T1-new (T1-old too) more than 70% of the shops are
"airside" (after the security checkpoint ie. boarding passes req'd). Not
sure about T-3 but I suspect it's the same.

Just wait until the T1-OLD and T2 is demolished and T-1 is finished in
2015. Complete with an automated elevated people mover from T1 - T3 -
the reduced parking lot (ready in Dec 2006). It uses cables to pull it
along the guideway and it won't need to be cleared of snow in the winter!
(Talk about a white elephant!)

howard
ps remove the Upper case char for the real address.