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Go Fig, figure this one out, the story is changing by the hour
So now it is a different story. Las Vegas remains in it, Air France and Paris have retreated. Earl **** U.S. officials have new information on terrorism threat O'Hare Airport on high alert December 27, 2003 ‹There is new information about the terror threat that led to the cancellation of overseas flights. U.S. officials now say the plot may have been involved in the hijacking of a foreign plane. The plane would have been crashed into the heart of Las Vegas. Airports across the world are on high alert. In Chicago there are more and more signs of stepped-up security and it is greeting passengers before they ever reach the terminal. Chicago Police surveillance teams are apparently videotaping every vehicle that approaches O'Hare. On Friday, an American Airlines flight from Chicago to Indianapolis was evacuated after landing. A flight attendant saw what she thought was a suspicious item aboard the flight. The 60 passengers and crewmembers went out on escape slides, but no explosives were found. In Los Angeles, Air France resumed its service from Paris after six flights were cancelled, amidst fears that they may be hijacked. French authorities questioned and released 13 passengers but some passengers never showed up at the airport. There is concern that one of the no-shows was a trained pilot. U.S. officials believe several passengers had plans to take charge of a plane and bring it down in an American city along its flight path, possibly Las Vegas. "If we have that kind of intelligence, we really need to follow it through," said Jerry Hauer, government terrorism adviser. Another possible sign al-Qaida may gearing up for an attack -- intelligence officials tell ABC News that recent attempts to assassinate Pakistan's President, Pervez Musharraf, may be similar to al-Qaida strikes that preceded September 11. That's when Osama bin Laden allegedly orchestrated the killing of leaders that would help the U.S. track terrorists. With all that as a backdrop, at O'Hare Wheaton residents Connie and Dave Sommer are confidently flying Air France to Paris. "It's a cause for concern but you have to trust the Department of Homeland Security and the Transportation Security folks to do their jobs," said Dave Sommer, Wheaton. This is an incredibly busy travel time, especially for international travel. O'Hare Airport welcomes flights from more than 20 foreign carriers. It's obvious the federal government is taking a close look at those foreign flights headed for the U.S. |
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Go Fig, figure this one out, the story is changing by the hour
Earl Evleth wrote: So now it is a different story. Las Vegas remains in it, Air France and Paris have retreated. So what? Stories change as intellegence gathering changes. You think our enemies stay the course? Also what makes it to the public are twisted, misinterpreted rambles that change by the minute, even between different media sources. I for one still plan to travel. Hope most do the same and allow for some inconviences along the way. |
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Go Fig, figure this one out, the story is changing by the hour
"Miles" schreef in bericht news:xYnHb.24432$J77.1406@fed1read07... I for one still plan to travel. Hope most do the same and allow for some inconviences along the way. I also will travel, but not to the US for the moment. We had some vague plans to go to New York in the spring, but New York will still be there after the Bush era when all these ridiculous "security" measures will all have gone. Sjoerd |
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Go Fig, figure this one out, the story is changing by the hour
Sjoerd wrote: I also will travel, but not to the US for the moment. We had some vague plans to go to New York in the spring, but New York will still be there after the Bush era when all these ridiculous "security" measures will all have gone. Thats too bad. However, I have flown many times this past year and have not had any 'ridiculous security' measures to go through. I have heard of a few that seem odd but none have effected me at all. In fact, on every trip I have made in the USA I have never been inconvenienced by security measures nor delayed any longer than prior to 9/11. I agree that some measures are a bit absurd and useless but tougher security is required at airports almost worldwide. Could it be the media hype has overstated whats actually occurring at USA airports to the extent your beliefs are unwarranted? The media is good at doing that. I have not traveled to NY city airports, so I can't comment on just what those 3 major airports are doing security wise if different than other USA airports. NY city is not on my must visit list. Too many other great cities to see. |
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Go Fig, figure this one out, the story is changing by the hour
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 01:23:14 +0100, "Sjoerd"
wrote: "Miles" schreef in bericht news:xYnHb.24432$J77.1406@fed1read07... I for one still plan to travel. Hope most do the same and allow for some inconviences along the way. I also will travel, but not to the US for the moment. We had some vague plans to go to New York in the spring, but New York will still be there after the Bush era when all these ridiculous "security" measures will all have gone. Bush may very well be in office for five more years. When you're my age you can expect New York to be there in five years, but one can only hope oneself will be there in five years. ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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Go Fig, figure this one out, the story is changing by the hour
Bush may very well be in office for five more years. When you're
my age you can expect New York to be there in five years, but one can only hope oneself will be there in five years. That's true at any age. Yes, Bush will probably be in office for five more years. His policies will almost certainly become more restrictive over that time. Also, his successor will not simply reverse all of Bush's policies on his first day in office, so it may be a lot longer than five years to see pre-Bush policies, if ever. Casey |
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Go Fig, figure this one out, the story is changing by the hour
On 27/12/03 23:48, in article xYnHb.24432$J77.1406@fed1read07, "Miles"
wrote: Earl Evleth wrote: So now it is a different story. Las Vegas remains in it, Air France and Paris have retreated. So what? Stories change as intellegence gathering changes. You think our enemies stay the course? Yes, pretty well in fact. I for one still plan to travel. Hope most do the same and allow for some inconviences along the way. Us too, we take the same AA flight to Miami on the 23rd of January, the famous flight that Reid was on. I personally am not worried about physical hijacking any more, the passengers have learned to defend themselves as they did on the Reid flight. I am more worried about a Lockerbie type bomb. But at 72 I don`t worry much about unlikely scenarios. Earl |
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Go Fig, figure this one out, the story is changing by the hour
On 28/12/03 1:23, in article ,
"Sjoerd" wrote: "Miles" schreef in bericht news:xYnHb.24432$J77.1406@fed1read07... I for one still plan to travel. Hope most do the same and allow for some inconviences along the way. I also will travel, but not to the US for the moment. We had some vague plans to go to New York in the spring, but New York will still be there after the Bush era when all these ridiculous "security" measures will all have gone. No, they will be getting worse. The EU has agreed to go along with the security information check on all passengers which requires a ton of information on each individual, some 35 items. Not just home address and telephone number but health information, credit card numbers, ---- you name it. It will be very intrusive. Earl |
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Go Fig, figure this one out, the story is changing by the hour
On 28/12/03 5:01, in article
et, "Casey" wrote: That's true at any age. Yes, Bush will probably be in office for five more years. His policies will almost certainly become more restrictive over that time. Also, his successor will not simply reverse all of Bush's policies on his first day in office, so it may be a lot longer than five years to see pre-Bush policies, if ever. Anti-terrorist polices, one installed get looked into police behavior and the behavior of the general public. Paris has had numerous bombs in the time we have been here. So you get army personnel marching around in groups of 2 and 3 with machine guns in the train station and airports during increased warning periods (Vigipirate). Usually high security practices last for a while and are not sustainable. When BHV had a bomb or two years ago, they stationed people to search bags at each entrance for a couple of years, then backed off. In our own neigbhorhood, in the 1980s we had a right wing book store a block away. About once a years it would get bombed. A small bomb which took out the front windows of the place. The bomb away went off about 5 AM, once I went down right after to see the flames licking from the debris. The propritaire had installed a concrete wall about a foot inside the place so that any explosion would not start a fire in the book area; Of course, afterwards the police would roar up and investigate and for about 6 months after each bombing they police would periodically patrol the area in their "panier à salade". After 6 months they would drop the patrols and a few months later the bombers would strike again. I`d say we had around 6-8 bombins in the 80s. The lesson here for me is that all these patrols are reassurance for the general public. They are displays by the authorities which they have to make to give the appearance of "doing something". Air port controls face-to-face controls are largely the same thing. One has to find questioning some people intensely a bit absurd, a 70 yr old couple are not prime candidates to hijack a plane. Some body search techniques are essential however. Putting in hitech explosive detectors is essential, xraying hand bags absolutely necessary and even looking at shoe heels now. Put parading around soldiers does have an absurd air to it. As a dog lover I do appreciate encountering the beagles used in the US airports. They wag their tails, sniff at my leg and recognized the I too know dogs. That brings a smile, at least, to this whole sorry business. Earl |
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"Sjoerd" a écrit dans le message de I was considering the same thing...but I found a better destination, those security measures are deterring a lot of people. Anyway nevermind...I dunno Y people always talk about the bushy USA on the Europe group. |
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