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SUISSE: L'interdiction de fumer n'aura tenu que trois mois

Le Tribunal fédéral a annulé le règlement transitoire du Conseil
d'Etat sur la fumée passive.
Les bistrots sans fumée, cela devait être l'avenir, c'est déjà du
passé!
Depuis hier, les accros à la nicotine peuvent recommencer à enfumer
les cafés
et restaurants à leur guise sans craindre les foudres de la
maréchaussée.
Ainsi en a décidé le Tribunal fédéral (TF) dans un arrêt daté du 5
septembre
dernier et livré hier en primeur sur les ondes de Radio Cité.
Saisie de trois recours, la Haute Cour a en effet annulé le règlement
transitoire
édicté par le Conseil d'Etat qui définit (depuis le 1er juillet
dernier) les modalités
de l'interdiction de fumer dans les lieux publics fermés.

Could anybody confirm this ? Smoking allowed again in Swiss cafés and
restaurants ?

Why do you want to know ?
"kodok" a écrit dans le message de
...
SUISSE: L'interdiction de fumer n'aura tenu que trois mois

Le Tribunal fédéral a annulé le règlement transitoire du Conseil
d'Etat sur la fumée passive.
Les bistrots sans fumée, cela devait être l'avenir, c'est déjà du
passé!
Depuis hier, les accros à la nicotine peuvent recommencer à enfumer
les cafés
et restaurants à leur guise sans craindre les foudres de la
maréchaussée.
Ainsi en a décidé le Tribunal fédéral (TF) dans un arrêt daté du 5
septembre
dernier et livré hier en primeur sur les ondes de Radio Cité.
Saisie de trois recours, la Haute Cour a en effet annulé le règlement
transitoire
édicté par le Conseil d'Etat qui définit (depuis le 1er juillet
dernier) les modalités
de l'interdiction de fumer dans les lieux publics fermés.

Could anybody confirm this ? Smoking allowed again in Swiss cafés and
restaurants ?

Runge12 a écrit :
Why do you want to know ?
"kodok" a �crit dans le message de
...
SUISSE: L'interdiction de fumer n'aura tenu que trois mois

Le Tribunal f�d�ral a annul� le r�glement transitoire du Conseil
d'Etat sur la fum�e passive.
Les bistrots sans fum�e, cela devait �tre l'avenir, c'est d�j� du
pass�!
Depuis hier, les accros � la nicotine peuvent recommencer � enfumer
les caf�s
et restaurants � leur guise sans craindre les foudres de la
mar�chauss�e.
Ainsi en a d�cid� le Tribunal f�d�ral (TF) dans un arr�t dat� du 5
septembre
dernier et livr� hier en primeur sur les ondes de Radio Cit�.
Saisie de trois recours, la Haute Cour a en effet annul� le r�glement
transitoire
�dict� par le Conseil d'Etat qui d�finit (depuis le 1er juillet
dernier) les modalit�s
de l'interdiction de fumer dans les lieux publics ferm�s.

Could anybody confirm this ? Smoking allowed again in Swiss caf�s and
restaurants ?


Why do want to know ?
Because I would like to know where I can smoke freely apart from my
own home .
I know South East Asia is a good place for that,
But I would be happy to learn that places nearer to home are
available.
I have read hundreds of messages of people wanting to know where they
could find places where they could find places where they could find
places that where tobacco free. I have no objections to that.
I am looking for the reverse. Anything wrong ?

I am 73 years old and have no health problems linked with tobacco.

On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 14:20:15 -0700 (PDT), kodok
wrote:

I am 73 years old and have no health problems linked with tobacco.

I am 71 years old and I do have health problems linked with
tobacco; I'd prefer to not exacerbate those problems by having to
breath someone else's tobacco smoke in a place that's supposed to
be for the public.

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* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

Hatunen wrote on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:35:28 -0700:

I am 73 years old and have no health problems linked with
tobacco.

I am 71 years old and I do have health problems linked with
tobacco; I'd prefer to not exacerbate those problems by having
to breath someone else's tobacco smoke in a place that's
supposed to be for the public.

Sometimes I get exasperated by these "statistics of one": "I'm 100 years
old and still smoking and drinking". So what, statistics applies to the
general populace or large numbers and it's not unlikely that there will
be outliers.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:43:08 GMT, "James Silverton"
wrote:

Hatunen wrote on Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:35:28 -0700:

I am 73 years old and have no health problems linked with
tobacco.

I am 71 years old and I do have health problems linked with
tobacco; I'd prefer to not exacerbate those problems by having
to breath someone else's tobacco smoke in a place that's
supposed to be for the public.

Sometimes I get exasperated by these "statistics of one": "I'm 100 years
old and still smoking and drinking". So what, statistics applies to the
general populace or large numbers and it's not unlikely that there will
be outliers.

Just going tit for tat....

--
************* DAVE HATUNEN ) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

Hatunen wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 14:20:15 -0700 (PDT), kodok
wrote:

I am 73 years old and have no health problems linked with tobacco.

I am 71 years old and I do have health problems linked with
tobacco; I'd prefer to not exacerbate those problems by having to
breath someone else's tobacco smoke in a place that's supposed to
be for the public.

Apparently its a very difficult habit to break. I recently moved to a
senior retirement residence. I am continually astonished by the number
of residents in wheel chairs with attached oxygen equipment who STILL
have to take those frequent "cigarette breaks"! The facility does not
allow smoking indoors, and only in a few designated outdoor areas, but
those areas are always occupied. (I think, if I already had emphysema
or related ailments and required oxygen just to breathe, plain common
sense would persuade me that the dubious pleasure of a cigarette wasn't
worth the cost to my health.)

On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:35:01 -0700,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote:



Hatunen wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 14:20:15 -0700 (PDT), kodok
wrote:

I am 73 years old and have no health problems linked with tobacco.

I am 71 years old and I do have health problems linked with
tobacco; I'd prefer to not exacerbate those problems by having to
breath someone else's tobacco smoke in a place that's supposed to
be for the public.

Apparently its a very difficult habit to break. I recently moved to a
senior retirement residence. I am continually astonished by the number
of residents in wheel chairs with attached oxygen equipment who STILL
have to take those frequent "cigarette breaks"! The facility does not
allow smoking indoors, and only in a few designated outdoor areas, but
those areas are always occupied. (I think, if I already had emphysema
or related ailments and required oxygen just to breathe, plain common
sense would persuade me that the dubious pleasure of a cigarette wasn't
worth the cost to my health.)

Those who have reached the venerability to qualify to reside
in such places have also earned the right to endanger their
health in any way they prefer, in my opinion. With the
proviso that it does not endanger others, as you note, with
second-hand smoke. Like lighting up in the oxygen tent:-)

My 97yo f-i-l is now in a similar place. They have a
protected, all-weather, ventilated external area set aside
for the smokers.

He smokes about ten a day. When he remembers. He also gets
through a significant daily dose of Scotch, when he
remembers to buy it, without ever getting to the level of
inebriation. When we cared for him at home he added so much
salt to his dishes it looked like snow. He considers fat to
be the primary essential food group. I doubt that he has
ever exercised in his life, but he isn't overweight.

He will probably out-live me.


Cheers, Alan, Australia
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