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Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide



 
 
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 05:13 AM
mtravelkay
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Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:

To make a very long story short, I got a first class QF seat LHR-SYD in 2000
which is a bit longer than LAX-SYD but might compare for the purposes of
this example. I later found out that on a last-minute basis, it was an
AUD$12,000 ticket which, thankfully, was on Air Canada's tab, not mine.


I doubt they pay the full rate for this.

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Old March 3rd, 2004, 05:38 AM
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Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:
I don't know this for a fact.....but does one order elevators "with" and
"without" a number 13 for shafts above that number of floors/levels
(depending on whether the entry level is "ground" or "first" floor, to come
full circle to another discussion)


Thankfully, on aircraft, the numbering os clear: cargo deck, main deck, upper deck.

Cruise ships tend to use names for each deck (Promenade, Sun etc).

On many cruise ships, there is a 13th deck. It may not be named "13", but it
still it.

Consider an airline that names first coach row "7" even though there are only
4 rows of business class. This means that the 13th row is really numbered 16,
and the row labeld "13" is really the 10th row.
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 06:10 AM
Amanda Klein
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"Terry Russell" wrote in message . au...
"CollectorNZ" wrote in message
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Just how many people jump of Motorway Bridges in LA

Try finding the figures


don't know, don't actually want to know

probably near
http://www.cdc.gov/
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/suifacts.htm
or local coroners reports

They do usually try not to hype it too much, media attention is like
an advertisement.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00031539.htm
It does have some fascination, evidence this thread.

People are not fundamentally logical and not machines
no matter how much we try to cast ouselves as such
or try to mould others to that imaginary ideal.
Yet, even machines break.



Too many!
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 08:38 AM
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"mtravelkay" wrote in message
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Yes, the elevators are ordered that way. Otis understands.


While Schindler's Lift has the 13.


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Old March 3rd, 2004, 10:27 AM
Roland Perry
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In message , mtravelkay
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(depending on whether the entry level is "ground" or "first" floor, to come
full circle to another discussion)


Yes, the elevators are ordered that way. Otis understands.


Lots of elevators in the UK have been installed with "1" as the "ground
floor". Whether that was to appease American visitors, or just an
ordering gremlin I don't know.

So you always have to be on the lookout; ground level can be any of:

L - lobby
G - ground
0 - UK
1 - American
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Roland Perry
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Old March 3rd, 2004, 03:42 PM
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nobody muttered....

Raffi Balmanoukian wrote:
I don't know this for a fact.....but does one order elevators "with"
and "without" a number 13 for shafts above that number of
floors/levels (depending on whether the entry level is "ground" or
"first" floor, to come full circle to another discussion)


Thankfully, on aircraft, the numbering os clear: cargo deck, main
deck, upper deck.


Which is borrowed from the maritime trade, as are most things including air
miles/gnauts (and very few a/c come with full decks other than the "main",
so officially the cargo/lower "deck" is no deck, but a platform, as the
abbreviated length upper "deck" is also a platform).


Cruise ships tend to use names for each deck (Promenade, Sun etc).


Which navies avoid because of the potential confusion for those fighting
fires or performing other damage control evolutions....

USN - "Main Deck", the highest full deck, and down from there, 2nd, 3rd,
4th decks, etc., while going up in the superstructure, O1, O2, O3,
O4, etc. "Levels".

The Royal Navy's a bit different and merchant practice has evolved greatly,
since most of todays merchantmen have only a single "deck".


On many cruise ships, there is a 13th deck. It may not be named "13",
but it still it.


Not many cruise ships (except the very largest) would have 13 "decks".


Consider an airline that names first coach row "7" even though there
are only 4 rows of business class. This means that the 13th row is
really numbered 16, and the row labeld "13" is really the 10th row.

Some airlines adhere to the custom of numbering base on a space allocation
for a single "economy" class cabin, with your Row 7 being about where it
would be if 6 rows of economy seating were installed forward of it.

TMO
 




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