free tent camping on private property and elsewhere in Ireland and France

I've camped at public monuments in Ireland, private property in Ireland
(farmer field's with permission), and with permission on farms in
France. One time a tourist agency representative (very pretty and
polite, I might add) in Amboise France pointed me towards a spot on the
Loire where "unofficial camping" took place. She did this in part
because it was late October and official campgrounds were closed.

I've explained to friends and relatives here in the U.S. that attitudes
towards free camping are different in Europe and the U.K. .

Does anybody know the formal rules ? Or what is generally acceptable
protocol ? Or where this is discussed on the web ? Naturally, Borde
Failte, the official tourist board of ireland doesnt discuss this topic
on their website.

Thanks in advance.

Bobby O'Neill
slOmaha NE USA

On 25 Feb 2006 04:33:54 -0800, "roadwarrior" wrote:

I've camped at public monuments in Ireland, private property in Ireland
(farmer field's with permission), and with permission on farms in
France. One time a tourist agency representative (very pretty and
polite, I might add) in Amboise France pointed me towards a spot on the
Loire where "unofficial camping" took place. She did this in part
because it was late October and official campgrounds were closed.

I've explained to friends and relatives here in the U.S. that attitudes
towards free camping are different in Europe and the U.K. .

Does anybody know the formal rules ? Or what is generally acceptable
protocol ? Or where this is discussed on the web ? Naturally, Borde
Failte, the official tourist board of ireland doesnt discuss this topic
on their website.

In what sense are attitudes different in Europe than in the US?
Unofficial camping is pretty common in some parts of the US. Are you
saying that it's less common or more common in Europe?
--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

It's not common in Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado, and Wyoming, to name a
few. Maybe because these states have so much national forest lands or
farm/ranchlands.

Thirty years ago you could get away with hunting on cornfields w/o
permission; now that act will likely get you arrested and/or shot.

I am saying it is way more common in Europe.

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

roadwarrior wrote:

Thirty years ago you could get away with hunting on cornfields w/o
permission; now that act will likely get you arrested and/or shot.

As it should! I'm sure the household pets no longer shot by
over-eager hunters with "buck fever" are grateful!

Do you have as much sympathy with hunting companions as you have with
household pets?

--
PB
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Padraig Breathnach wrote:

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:


roadwarrior wrote:


Thirty years ago you could get away with hunting on cornfields w/o
permission; now that act will likely get you arrested and/or shot.

As it should! I'm sure the household pets no longer shot by
over-eager hunters with "buck fever" are grateful!


Do you have as much sympathy with hunting companions as you have with
household pets?

If they're hunting companions of our vice-president, I do!
(But at least huntig companions are also armed - when the
household pets begin toting shotguns, I'll rethink my
position.)

roadwarrior wrote:
I've camped at public monuments in Ireland, private property in
Ireland (farmer field's with permission), and with permission on
farms in France.

I've explained to friends and relatives here in the U.S. that
attitudes towards free camping are different in Europe and the U.K. .

An excerpt from my "EXPERIENCES in YUGOSLAVIA"
http://geocities.com/iconoc/Articles/Yugo.html at the site at Right in
the sig.

After a while [the policeman] returned . . . and told me to
follow him. He explained that the owners of the land where we had
stopped had given permission for me to spend the night there. Promising
to return in the morning, he rode off into the night. I could see
nothing, so lay down on the ground and slept well, completely
undisturbed by animals or insects.

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see? a decent place to sleep and a breakfast of tomatoes, potatos, hot
coffee and freshly baked bread ! sweet ...

I think landowners in the states became too paranoid to extend that
hospitality years ago

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DDT Filled Mormons wrote:

On 26 Feb 2006 09:03:49 -0800, "roadwarrior" wrote:

I think landowners in the states became too paranoid to extend that
hospitality years ago

I suspect that all comes from the 'suing culture' in the US. People
are scared to do anything nice for anyone else, just in case they may
be liable for anything that happens. In fact, this fear may not be
paranoia, but be perfectly reasonable given some of the lawsuits that
have succeeded.

There's also the reasonable fear you might get shot by the landowner.

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usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
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roadwarrior wrote:

see? a decent place to sleep and a breakfast of tomatoes, potatos, hot
coffee and freshly baked bread ! sweet ...

I think landowners in the states became too paranoid to extend that
hospitality years ago

Possibly with reason?