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In article , Jim
Anderson says... "mrraveltay" wrote in message . com... Jim Anderson wrote: 2. Well, I have to wait XX of minutes for my bag. I will admit there are two airports I go into frequently that have very, very slow service. These are PHL and BOS. It sucks sometimes. There have been a few "non-scientific" tests done on this from my perspective. Both times a business-dweeb that ran me over on the Jetway getting off the plane. Happens we both rented cars from the the same company. Both times, I was in line at the gate pulling out of the lot behind these two different people. Circumstantial, sure. As to the whole excuse, I say bull... Why do you suppose the business person got his car just before you, if you had to stop at baggage claim? It sounds like he didn't use the gold service, or maybe he stopped to shave in the terminal because he didn't want to do it on the plane. Shave? it was midnight. I was gold and he was gold too... the tag was hanging from the rearview mirror. Same thing happened to me at YYZ tonight. Dude had everything in a bin in F. I checked my suitcase. He blazed out, thru customs, etc with his stuff. We rode the same shuttle to the same hotel.... It's kinda like the guy who strives to pass you on the road, then you end up at the traffic light right behind him. Banty |
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"PTRAVEL" wrote in message om... "Jim Anderson" wrote in message ... "PTRAVEL" wrote in message ... "Banty" wrote in message ... In article , Hell Toupee says... Jim Anderson wrote: I agree with your last point whole-heartedly. There's two issues here as to why people HAVE to carry everything on. 1. The MYTH of lost luggage. Well, there's also the problem of finding valuables disappearing from one's checked luggage. In fact, an undercover investigation at our local airport discovered a thriving practice in ground crews stealing from baggage. That makes people want to keep their valuables with them on the plane - and some of those things are quite bulky. My immediate thought - ship them insured. But I can see you're thinking too... When I travel for business, I carry approximately $4,000 in electronics. When I travel for pleasure, that number increases to $10,000, most of which is unscheduled -- the cost of scheduling is FAR too high. However, you completely miss the point. Even if every penny was covered at replacement value, a check for $10,000 doesn't solve the problem of not having access to the computer/camcorder/still camera on location, nor does it compensate me for the search and shopping time, not to mention the additional time wasted at the airport and on the phone trying to track down the missing bags. I carry, maybe, 3K in electronics for business and add another 2K for pleasure. And they're always in a carry on. Yes, it's great to have every whiz-bang gadget but, geez... gotta take 'em all??? I don't take every "whiz bang gadget." I take what I need. Why is it so many people are willing to tell me what I do or do not need without the slightest idea what I do, what I have and what I use it for? Oh please... the simple fact is you have the proverbial 5 pound bag and we, yes I say we because we all do it, try and put 10 pounds of crap in the bag. I don't know what you "need." I don't what to know what you "need." My point is that if we all, yes, again we, all think about what will fit instead of saying just take it, the point might become moot. |
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"Banty" wrote in message ... In article , Jim Anderson says... "mrraveltay" wrote in message . com... Jim Anderson wrote: 2. Well, I have to wait XX of minutes for my bag. I will admit there are two airports I go into frequently that have very, very slow service. These are PHL and BOS. It sucks sometimes. There have been a few "non-scientific" tests done on this from my perspective. Both times a business-dweeb that ran me over on the Jetway getting off the plane. Happens we both rented cars from the the same company. Both times, I was in line at the gate pulling out of the lot behind these two different people. Circumstantial, sure. As to the whole excuse, I say bull... Why do you suppose the business person got his car just before you, if you had to stop at baggage claim? It sounds like he didn't use the gold service, or maybe he stopped to shave in the terminal because he didn't want to do it on the plane. Shave? it was midnight. I was gold and he was gold too... the tag was hanging from the rearview mirror. Same thing happened to me at YYZ tonight. Dude had everything in a bin in F. I checked my suitcase. He blazed out, thru customs, etc with his stuff. We rode the same shuttle to the same hotel.... It's kinda like the guy who strives to pass you on the road, then you end up at the traffic light right behind him. lol... good point! |
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Jim Anderson wrote:
"Miguel Cruz" wrote in message ... Jim Davis Sr. wrote: ... 40 minutes ... I've waited almost that long to get off the plane when people are trying to break loose the crap they jammed in the overheads. Anyone who has to break their stride to retrieve their carry-on from the overhead on the way off the plane has brought too much on the plane. And I say this as someone who doesn't check anything much of the time. Hear, hear.... If you can't lift it, how the hell can you call it a carry on?? There is a vast difference between "can't lift it" and can grab it "without breaking stride". Also there is a serious difference between "can't lift it" and "want to lift it for the next hour as I traverse the airport". FFM |
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"Jim Davis Sr." wrote: Here's a question for discussion; What's your opinion on carry-ons. I travel for business, and check my tools & suitcase. I carry on my Computer Case. I can't believe the amount of things that people try to stuff into the overheads. If I put my case under the seat, I have to sit with my legs in my chest. It goes up. I'll move it in an unusual circumstance, but not for the half dozen people toting 2 or 3 fairly large bags. And no matter what people think, the Airlines DON'T enforce the 1 bag rule. I carry on a camera bag, a small backpack that holds my laptop and a few assorted accessories such as some blank CD-R discs, ethernet cable, etc. My camera bag has the usual camera stuff in it: a 35mm digital camera, a lens, lens cleaning stuff, and my travel plans, plus passport (if I am traveling on an international route). I also carry on a small grocery bag with a few snacks on it and a bottle of water. The laptop goes in the bin above my seat; camera bag stuffs easily beneath the seat in front of me. After we reach cruising speed, I usually get up and take out my laptop to watch a movie or listen to some music. Works well for me. There is no way I would ever allow my camera or computer equipment to travel as checked luggage. Esp. after seeing how my suitcase gets abused after many flights. |
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"Dick Locke" wrote in message ... On 14 Jan 2004 16:48:28 -0800, Banty wrote: I might wind up sanctioned or in jail. Paul, outside of "My Cousin Vinnie," has any judge done that in the last 20 years when an attorney's luggage has been lost? I have no idea, as I've always made sure it's never happened to me and the same is true of all the other attorneys I know. All I can tell you is that every district court in the US as local rules which (1) specify appropriate dress and, (2) indicate that failure to comply with the local rules is sanctionable. I've known judges to impose sanctions (up to and including detention) for considerably more minor offenses, e.g. showing up 5 minutes late for a hearing. Proper dress for court is a huge issue for judges (which is one of the reasons that I like My Cousin Vinny as much as I do -- it's dead-on accurate and extremely plausible). The comment about damaging your client seems valid to me. |
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"Jim Anderson" wrote in message ... "PTRAVEL" wrote in message om... "Jim Anderson" wrote in message ... "PTRAVEL" wrote in message ... "Banty" wrote in message ... In article , Hell Toupee says... Jim Anderson wrote: I agree with your last point whole-heartedly. There's two issues here as to why people HAVE to carry everything on. 1. The MYTH of lost luggage. Well, there's also the problem of finding valuables disappearing from one's checked luggage. In fact, an undercover investigation at our local airport discovered a thriving practice in ground crews stealing from baggage. That makes people want to keep their valuables with them on the plane - and some of those things are quite bulky. My immediate thought - ship them insured. But I can see you're thinking too... When I travel for business, I carry approximately $4,000 in electronics. When I travel for pleasure, that number increases to $10,000, most of which is unscheduled -- the cost of scheduling is FAR too high. However, you completely miss the point. Even if every penny was covered at replacement value, a check for $10,000 doesn't solve the problem of not having access to the computer/camcorder/still camera on location, nor does it compensate me for the search and shopping time, not to mention the additional time wasted at the airport and on the phone trying to track down the missing bags. I carry, maybe, 3K in electronics for business and add another 2K for pleasure. And they're always in a carry on. Yes, it's great to have every whiz-bang gadget but, geez... gotta take 'em all??? I don't take every "whiz bang gadget." I take what I need. Why is it so many people are willing to tell me what I do or do not need without the slightest idea what I do, what I have and what I use it for? Oh please... the simple fact is you have the proverbial 5 pound bag and we, yes I say we because we all do it, try and put 10 pounds of crap in the bag. You're really something. I'll say it again: you haven't the slightest idea what I carry or why I carry it (or how much it weighs). My carryons comply with all airline requirements. I don't care whether they comply with your requirements. I don't know what you "need." I don't what to know what you "need." My point is that if we all, yes, again we, all think about what will fit instead of saying just take it, the point might become moot. Last time: you haven't a clue what I need, how I pack, why I take things, etc. All you need to know is that I don't violate airline carryon requirements. |
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"Jim Anderson" wrote in message ...
[snip] But, still, I don't see why people want to haul large bags around a transportation terminal when they can dump them right at the door, and pick them up right before they leave when they get to their destination. Large, yes. I don't actually like hauling the small ones either and tend to check them. So what if takes 40 minutes to retrieve the bag? That's 40 minutes less, often significant in terms of getting to ones destination on time. The person just flew across the continent in half a day, they should be grateful they didn't have to go by wagon train and take 6 months complete with risks of starvation and Indian attacks. If they're that much in a hurry, they should either travel light or ship their stuff sperately. End of rant.) Why? To please you? If they're in that much of a hurry, they should do EXACTLY what they are doing, carry it on. The dumbest thing to do is to check it and then complain that it took too long to come out. I agree with your last point whole-heartedly. There's two issues here as to why people HAVE to carry everything on. 1. The MYTH of lost luggage. Not sure why you call it a myth. You acknowledge here that it happens. I KNOW there will be a multitude of "well, I lost mine" posts to this comment. SAVE IT. I've lost one bag and that was six years ago, even before I started travelling regularly. In the past 3 3/4 years I've done atleast 500 segments. more than 95% of the time I've checked a bag. The only time I don't is if I'm running late and can't check it in time. Of the more than 450 flights I've done, my bag hasn't made it exactly 5 times. Of those 5 time times, the bag has made it to my hotel or home on the next flight. Couple of times this was the next morning, the other times is was by noon that day. Typically it's a function of 2 things, how far you flew, and how far away from the airport you'll be staying. I had one show up 7 days later. But I was the better part of a days drive away. However, the difference between "lost" and "arrives 7 days later" can be nominal depending upon the circumstances. 2. Well, I have to wait XX of minutes for my bag. I will admit there are two airports I go into frequently that have very, very slow service. These are PHL and BOS. It sucks sometimes. There have been a few "non-scientific" tests done on this from my perspective. Both times a business-dweeb that ran me over on the Jetway getting off the plane. Happens we both rented cars from the the same company. Both times, I was in line at the gate pulling out of the lot behind these two different people. Circumstantial, sure. As to the whole excuse, I say bull... My experience has been a bit different. I actually tend to check my bag, the exception being mostly either an issue of time or if I'm traveling with associates who won't be. I'm not gonna be the one to hold them up. 40 minutes is 40 minutes so if you were behind some guy after checking your luggage, something else held him up for 40 minutes. If one is in those "straight to your car" clubs, you can be out in about 10-15. My two cents worth. Flames to /dev/null. Not so much flames, just a comment that it is usually considered "smart" not to intentionally set oneself up for failure. If you can do things to avoid risks which are significant to you, it is considered wise to do so. So we allow extra time to get to the airport which we know can be crowded. We don't carry stuff in our pockets that we know will be confiscated by the TSA. We carry around extra credit cards, duplicate ID's, extra cash, all manner of things to try to handle "contingencies". If someone is bothered by the wait, is concerned about not having something upon arrival, or needs to leave the airport as soon as practical, carrying on their luggage is a wise decision. It might also be wise however to only try to carry on what is permitted under the rules. |
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"Jim Anderson" wrote in message ... [snip] But, still, I don't see why people want to haul large bags around a transportation terminal when they can dump them right at the door, and pick them up right before they leave when they get to their destination. Large, yes. I don't actually like hauling the small ones either and tend to check them. So what if takes 40 minutes to retrieve the bag? That's 40 minutes less, often significant in terms of getting to ones destination on time. The person just flew across the continent in half a day, they should be grateful they didn't have to go by wagon train and take 6 months complete with risks of starvation and Indian attacks. If they're that much in a hurry, they should either travel light or ship their stuff sperately. End of rant.) Why? To please you? If they're in that much of a hurry, they should do EXACTLY what they are doing, carry it on. The dumbest thing to do is to check it and then complain that it took too long to come out. As long as they comply with airline rules. There's a dumber thing to think about - hassling with an FA about checking a bag you've tried to carry on. If they haul too much to carry on legally, then, yes, if it's a 40 minute wait, that's something to be dealt with. ::snip:: Not so much flames, just a comment that it is usually considered "smart" not to intentionally set oneself up for failure. If you can do things to avoid risks which are significant to you, it is considered wise to do so. So we allow extra time to get to the airport which we know can be crowded. We don't carry stuff in our pockets that we know will be confiscated by the TSA. We carry around extra credit cards, duplicate ID's, extra cash, all manner of things to try to handle "contingencies". If someone is bothered by the wait, is concerned about not having something upon arrival, or needs to leave the airport as soon as practical, carrying on their luggage is a wise decision. It might also be wise however to only try to carry on what is permitted under the rules. Which is how I think - in terms of contingencies. Like packing what's needed for the next day or so in a carryon, and/or wearing on the flight what would be passable for one's activities the next day. It's contingency planning which go to violating rules and imposing on pax which folks resent here. Banty |
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