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Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
On Sun, 21 May 2006 13:27:48 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote: Dave Frightens Me writes: There is no gurantee of that. We have seen no evidence to date. We have the history of all the developed countries as evidence, and the evidence is consistent. So the Earth is proof of what you said? -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
Martin writes:
You make the same claim about the French. That claim is equally valid. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
Jordi writes:
That is a common western misconception. An extremely small percentage are extremely wealthy, a good other percentage are simply wealthy and most people are upper-middle class by western standards. Not with a GDP of $12,900 (vs. $42,000 for the USA). Those having a hard time in the KSA are, for the most part, foreign workers in near slavery conditions and foreign students trying to become muslim clerics. Those are the ones bringing the per capita figures down. Even after adjusting for foreign workers, I still get a per capita GDP of $20,500, which is less than half the average of the USA. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
Mxsmanic wrote: Jordi writes: Even after adjusting for foreign workers, I still get a per capita GDP of $20,500, which is less than half the average of the USA. Foreign workers are roughly 25% of the total population, nearly 40% of people on working age. Every Saudi citizen has free health care and education, loans at 0% for starting businesses and 1st house mortgages, and barely pays any taxes at all. In terms of available income, the figure will be very similar to that of the US, and, believe it or not, it is more evenly distributed _among Saudi citizens_ J. |
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Jordi writes: That is a common western misconception. An extremely small percentage are extremely wealthy, a good other percentage are simply wealthy and most people are upper-middle class by western standards. Not with a GDP of $12,900 (vs. $42,000 for the USA). Those having a hard time in the KSA are, for the most part, foreign workers in near slavery conditions and foreign students trying to become muslim clerics. Those are the ones bringing the per capita figures down. Even after adjusting for foreign workers, I still get a per capita GDP of $20,500, which is less than half the average of the USA. US averages are more misleading than most, especially as Bill Gates has as much wealth as the poorest 47% of americans COMBINED. |
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"Dave Frightens Me" wrote in message ... On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:49:44 +0100, "Miss L. Toe" wrote: "Mxsmanic" wrote in message .. . Jordi writes: That is a common western misconception. An extremely small percentage are extremely wealthy, a good other percentage are simply wealthy and most people are upper-middle class by western standards. Not with a GDP of $12,900 (vs. $42,000 for the USA). Those having a hard time in the KSA are, for the most part, foreign workers in near slavery conditions and foreign students trying to become muslim clerics. Those are the ones bringing the per capita figures down. Even after adjusting for foreign workers, I still get a per capita GDP of $20,500, which is less than half the average of the USA. US averages are more misleading than most, especially as Bill Gates has as much wealth as the poorest 47% of americans COMBINED. Have you got a source for that? I cant find the recent source where I spotted that but: http://www.commondreams.org/pressrel...98/072798a.htm and : " Microsoft CEO Bill Gates has more wealth than the bottom 45 percent of American households combined. " http://www.cooperativeindividualism....ution1999.html Also along a similar vein: "In 1999, three men - Bill Gates, Paul Allen, and Warren Buffet - had a net worth greater than the combined GDP of the 41 poorest nations and their 550 million people. " http://www.foodrevolution.org/havenot.htm |
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On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:49:44 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
wrote: "Mxsmanic" wrote in message .. . Jordi writes: That is a common western misconception. An extremely small percentage are extremely wealthy, a good other percentage are simply wealthy and most people are upper-middle class by western standards. Not with a GDP of $12,900 (vs. $42,000 for the USA). Those having a hard time in the KSA are, for the most part, foreign workers in near slavery conditions and foreign students trying to become muslim clerics. Those are the ones bringing the per capita figures down. Even after adjusting for foreign workers, I still get a per capita GDP of $20,500, which is less than half the average of the USA. US averages are more misleading than most, especially as Bill Gates has as much wealth as the poorest 47% of americans COMBINED. Have you got a source for that? -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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Jordi wrote: Mxsmanic wrote: Jordi writes: Even after adjusting for foreign workers, I still get a per capita GDP of $20,500, which is less than half the average of the USA. Foreign workers are roughly 25% of the total population, nearly 40% of people on working age. Every Saudi citizen has free health care and education, loans at 0% for starting businesses and 1st house mortgages, and barely pays any taxes at all. In terms of available income, the figure will be very similar to that of the US, and, believe it or not, it is more evenly distributed _among Saudi citizens_ Yeah, but being a MUSLIM is rather a prerequisite for receiving all this largesse... -- Best Greg |
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Dave Frightens Me wrote: On Tue, 23 May 2006 17:38:03 +0100, "Miss L. Toe" wrote: Also along a similar vein: "In 1999, three men - Bill Gates, Paul Allen, and Warren Buffet - had a net worth greater than the combined GDP of the 41 poorest nations and their 550 million people. " http://www.foodrevolution.org/havenot.htm Damn, it makes you wanna do something about it, if only we knew what... Is the good 'ole USA a GREAT place or what...!!!??? -- Best Greg |
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Saudi Arabia opens its doors to tourists
On Tue, 23 May 2006 17:38:03 +0100, "Miss L. Toe"
wrote: Also along a similar vein: "In 1999, three men - Bill Gates, Paul Allen, and Warren Buffet - had a net worth greater than the combined GDP of the 41 poorest nations and their 550 million people. " http://www.foodrevolution.org/havenot.htm Damn, it makes you wanna do something about it, if only we knew what... -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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