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Bloomberg Business Week on Paris, France February 08, 2012, 7:05 AM EST : "Crisis Whittles Away Welfare State." “It’s clear France will have to invent a new model.”



 
 
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Old February 8th, 2012, 01:50 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.retirement,alt.politics.economics,rec.travel.europe,fr.soc.politique
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Default Bloomberg Business Week on Paris, France February 08, 2012, 7:05 AM EST : "Crisis Whittles Away Welfare State." “It’s clear France will have to invent a new model.”

Bloomberg Business Week on Paris, France February 08, 2012, 7:05 AM
EST : "Crisis Whittles Away Welfare State"

"..Europe’s more than two-year-old sovereign debt crisis and the
economic slump ...lay bare the limits of France’s welfare state which,
at about 31 percent of gross domestic product, is the world’s most
generous and has more than 136 billion euros ($178 billion) of debt.

“The structure of the French welfare state is such that you don’t see
acute poverty, but the model has reached its limit,” said Philippe
Chalmin, a professor at Universite Paris Dauphine. “It’s clear France
will have to invent a new model.”

With public debt of 1.69 trillion euros, or 85 percent of GDP, France
is too hamstrung for expansionary policies to ride out the slump. Its
government spending is among the world’s highest ,...."

google it to read it all

Socialism can be OK until you start running out of other people's
money
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Old February 8th, 2012, 02:01 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.retirement,alt.politics.economics,rec.travel.europe,fr.soc.politique
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Default Bloomberg Business Week on Paris, France February 08, 2012, 7:05 AM EST : "Crisis Whittles Away Welfare State." “It’s clear France will have to invent a new model.”

On 02/08/2012 01:50 PM, PĐŹ0xĐ˝ wrote:
Bloomberg Business Week on Paris, France February 08, 2012, 7:05 AM
EST : "Crisis Whittles Away Welfare State"

"..Europe’s more than two-year-old sovereign debt crisis and the
economic slump ...lay bare the limits of France’s welfare state which,
at about 31 percent of gross domestic product, is the world’s most
generous and has more than 136 billion euros ($178 billion) of debt.

“The structure of the French welfare state is such that you don’t see
acute poverty, but the model has reached its limit,” said Philippe
Chalmin, a professor at Universite Paris Dauphine. “It’s clear France
will have to invent a new model.”

With public debt of 1.69 trillion euros, or 85 percent of GDP, France
is too hamstrung for expansionary policies to ride out the slump. Its
government spending is among the world’s highest ,...."

google it to read it all

Socialism can be OK until you start running out of other people's
money


The debt above, when compared to US debt, is a very small drop in the
ocean. Oops.

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Old February 12th, 2012, 07:13 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.retirement,alt.politics.economics,rec.travel.europe,fr.soc.politique
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Default Bloomberg Business Week on Paris, France February 08, 2012, 7:05 AM EST : "Crisis Whittles Away Welfare State." “It’s clear France will have to invent a new model.”

PĐŹ0xĐ˝ wrote:
Bloomberg Business Week on Paris, France February 08, 2012, 7:05 AM
EST : "Crisis Whittles Away Welfare State"

....

Socialism can be OK until you start running out of other people's
money



Bloomberg is exceptionally despicable even for a politician. Combining
the worst features of liberals and conservatives, he'd like to turn
the whole country into a nanny state. He renewed his push to ban guns
in a Super Bowl ad. Bloomberg has banned smoking and trans fats and
whatever else he thinks is bad for people (he thinks he knows that
better than the people themselves do) and otherwise turned New York
into a nanny city. He sends squads of cops around to question,
search, and arrest people for any trivial reason; and they have to
make a quota each day. It was taped and one cop quit because of it.
"I'm not going to keep arresting innocent people, I'm not going to
keep searching people for no reason, I'm not going to keep writing
people for no reason, I'm tired of this," said Adil Polanco, an NYPD
Officer.
"They have to meet a quota. One arrest and twenty summonses," said
Officer Polanco.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ors&id=7305356
Jim Hoffer, News Team NEW YORK (WABC)

http://news.yahoo.com/special-report...075206659.html
Excerpts in quotes

"Special Report: Bloomberg reloads in push for gun control

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Among the slick, million-dollar ads for the likes
of Pepsi and Honda during the Super Bowl this Sunday, viewers in
Washington will see a far more modest spot. New York Mayor Michael
Bloomberg and Boston Mayor Thomas Menino will be sitting on a couch
touting an issue most politicians avoid like the plague: gun control.

Murder has been on the decline in New York and other major American
cities for years, but the mayors say they still see too many dead cops
and teens."
------------------------------------------------------------------------

The fact is that the murder rate in the overall population has
declined significantly in recent years. The rate among cops has also
declined, and was never higher than most common occupations. Truck
drivers have a much higher rate, garbage collectors have four times as
high a job-related fatality rate according to Bureau of Labor
Statistics figures.
https://sites.google.com/site/thepol...eharmthangood/
Bloomberg has used taxpayer money to gain support and investigate
shootings in other states. Like most such people, he relies on
anecdotes to make his case--jigo
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

"New York's activist mayor cannot simply restrict handguns in his city
- as he has done with smoking and trans fats. Two Supreme Court
decisions - District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago -
have declared such local initiatives unconstitutional. Instead,
Bloomberg launched MAIG, which now has 600 members nationwide.

In 2009, New York City contracted the security firm Kroll Inc. to send
undercover agents to gun shows in Ohio, Tennessee and Nevada to show
how people who could not pass a background check easily bought guns.

Bloomberg launched another probe after the January 2011 shooting in
Arizona that killed six people and wounded 13, including Congresswoman
Gabrielle Giffords. Using city money, he sent undercover investigators
to Arizona to repeat the gun show sting.

That move enraged supporters of unfettered gun rights.

"The 'sting' was a waste of money that misleads Americans and did
nothing to reduce crime," wrote John Lott Jr., an economist who writes
about guns, in a column on FoxNews.com. "Talk about an aggressive
publicity stunt."

The NSSF's Keane said there are serious problems with many MAIG
actions. He cited another investigation in which MAIG used gun data
collected by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) to
sue dealers found to be selling guns to straw buyers."

"The New York City police department went to the ATF, traced data,
turned that traced data over to private investigators, violated
federal law, and interfered in 18 ongoing criminal investigations," he
said. "The ATF had to pull agents out of the field because they were
placed at risk."
-------------------------------------------------------------------------



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Old February 13th, 2012, 02:32 AM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.retirement,alt.politics.economics,rec.travel.europe,fr.soc.politique
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Default Bloomberg Business Week on Paris, France February 08, 2012, 7:05 AM EST : "Crisis Whittles Away Welfare State." “It’s clear France will have to invent a new model.”

On Feb 12, 1:13Â*pm, jigo wrote:
PĐŹ0xĐ˝ wrote:
Â* Bloomberg Business Week on Paris, France February 08, 2012, 7:05 AM
EST Â*: "Crisis Whittles Away Welfare State"

...

Socialism can be OK until you start running out of other people's
money


Bloomberg is exceptionally despicable even for a politician. Combining
the worst features of liberals and conservatives, he'd like to turn
the whole country into a nanny state. He renewed his push to ban guns
in a Super Bowl ad. Bloomberg has banned smoking and trans fats and
whatever else he thinks is bad for people (he thinks he knows that
better than the people themselves do) and otherwise turned New York
into a nanny city. Â*He sends squads of cops around to question,
search, and arrest people for any trivial reason; and they have to
make a quota each day. Â*It was taped and one cop quit because of it.
"I'm not going to keep arresting innocent people, I'm not going to
keep searching people for no reason, I'm not going to keep writing
people for no reason, I'm tired of this," said Adil Polanco, an NYPD
Officer.
"They have to meet a quota. One arrest and twenty summonses," said
Officer Polanco.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...ors&id=7305356
Jim Hoffer, News Team NEW YORK (WABC)

http://news.yahoo.com/special-report...push-gun-contr...
Excerpts in quotes

"Special Report: Bloomberg reloads in push for gun control

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Among the slick, million-dollar ads for the likes
of Pepsi and Honda during the Super Bowl this Sunday, viewers in
Washington will see a far more modest spot. New York Mayor Michael
Bloomberg and Boston Mayor Thomas Menino will be sitting on a couch
touting an issue most politicians avoid like the plague: gun control.

Murder has been on the decline in New York and other major American
cities for years, but the mayors say they still see too many dead cops
and teens."
------------------------------------------------------------------------

The fact is that the murder rate in the overall population has
declined significantly in recent years. Â*The rate among cops has also
declined, and was never higher than most common occupations. Â*Truck
drivers have a much higher rate, garbage collectors have four times as
high a job-related fatality rate according to Bureau of Labor
Statistics figures.https://sites.google.com/site/thepol...eharmthangood/
Bloomberg has used taxpayer money to gain support and investigate
shootings in other states. Â*Like most such people, he relies on
anecdotes to make his case--jigo
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

"New York's activist mayor cannot simply restrict handguns in his city
- as he has done with smoking and trans fats. Two Supreme Court
decisions - District of Columbia v. Heller and McDonald v. Chicago -
have declared such local initiatives unconstitutional. Instead,
Bloomberg launched MAIG, which now has 600 members nationwide.

In 2009, New York City contracted the security firm Kroll Inc. to send
undercover agents to gun shows in Ohio, Tennessee and Nevada to show
how people who could not pass a background check easily bought guns.

Bloomberg launched another probe after the January 2011 shooting in
Arizona that killed six people and wounded 13, including Congresswoman
Gabrielle Giffords. Using city money, he sent undercover investigators
to Arizona to repeat the gun show sting.

That move enraged supporters of unfettered gun rights.

"The 'sting' was a waste of money that misleads Americans and did
nothing to reduce crime," wrote John Lott Jr., an economist who writes
about guns, in a column on FoxNews.com. "Talk about an aggressive
publicity stunt."

The NSSF's Keane said there are serious problems with many MAIG
actions. He cited another investigation in which MAIG used gun data
collected by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) to
sue dealers found to be selling guns to straw buyers."

"The New York City police department went to the ATF, traced data,
turned that traced data over to private investigators, violated
federal law, and interfered in 18 ongoing criminal investigations," he
said. "The ATF had to pull agents out of the field because they were
placed at risk."
-------------------------------------------------------------------------


Bloomberg, a typical product of american corporate fascism... is
giving us a slight idea on how would tyranny look like, on a planet
under total corporate rule...
What comes to mind is this movie called "Equilibrium" with Christian
Bale (American Psycho)
 




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