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finding flights not connecting in the US (carrying liquor)
If alcohol is bought at the airport and carried on in a sealed bag,
there is a problem connecting to another flight inside the US. The U.S does not respect the sealed-bag paradigm, so carried alcohol must be moved to the checked luggage, risking breakage and overweight baggage fees. So how can someone search for flights to the U.S. that require no U.S. connections, but allow any number of non-US connections? |
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finding flights not connecting in the US (carrying liquor)
On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:51:30 -0400 (EDT), Jack Ryan
wrote: If alcohol is bought at the airport and carried on in a sealed bag, there is a problem connecting to another flight inside the US. The U.S does not respect the sealed-bag paradigm, so carried alcohol must be moved to the checked luggage, risking breakage and overweight baggage fees. So how can someone search for flights to the U.S. that require no U.S. connections, but allow any number of non-US connections? I can't answer your question directly, but I will say that carrying liquor between connecting flights depends on the airport. Specifically, if you will need to go through security. Many airports use a single security checkpoint, so all (most) connecting flights will be on the other side of the checkpoint. No problem, just walk to your connecting gate. |
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finding flights not connecting in the US (carrying liquor)
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 06:03:12 -0500, kjwkjw wrote:
I can't answer your question directly, but I will say that carrying liquor between connecting flights depends on the airport. Specifically, if you will need to go through security. Many airports use a single security checkpoint, so all (most) connecting flights will be on the other side of the checkpoint. No problem, just walk to your connecting gate. You know, thinking this through a bit more, I'm referring to only domestic flights. If you're buying alcohol at the duty free store, you're obviously flying internationally. I haven't done that enough to remember customs/security/etc. |
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finding flights not connecting in the US (carrying liquor)
So how can someone search for flights to the U.S. that require no
U.S. connections, but allow any number of non-US connections? My advice is forget it. Most US airports have no international flights, or only from Canada where the CATSA inspection is just like the TSA's. Use a site like ITA software to look for connections, but I'm pretty sure that if you don't find a direct flight from outside North America in the first ten seconds, there aren't any. Even if there are, the US requires extra inspection (the silly shoe rule) and I wouldn't count on them letting your duty free bags through. Helpful tip: booze prices in New York are usually lower than at European duty free stores. The only reason to get something at the duty-free is if it's not available at all in the U.S., e.g, some Romanian wine I got in Bucharest, or agricultural rum in the Caribbean. For the famous brands most duty free carry, just get it here, cheaper. Second helpful tip: I've put bottles in my luggage many times, wrapped in dirty underwear, and never had a problem. I've never seen a US airport that weighs luggage at recheck, and if you're really worried about breakage, put them in gallon ziplocks before you stuff them among the clothes. |
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finding flights not connecting in the US (carrying liquor)
In the last episode of ,
kjwkjw said: You know, thinking this through a bit more, I'm referring to only domestic flights. If you're buying alcohol at the duty free store, you're obviously flying internationally. I haven't done that enough to remember customs/security/etc. The problem is that when your first flight is international and you buy alcohol, then later in your journey you have a connection that requires you to pass through security or customs/immigration, whether it's domestic or international. In some places, they'll allow you to pass with liquids sealed by a previous duty-free store through security even though it's in excess of the normal liquid allowances, in a nod to the fact that screening for liquids is stupid and pointless anyway. The US, however, prefers to make travel as difficult as possible so that tourists and business travelers alike avoid entering the country or passing through, that way foreign tourist/traveler dollars don't make their way into the US economy. -- I guess we'll be going down together, I mean getting off together, I mean ... That's Ok, I'll just press the button for the stimulator. Elevator! -- Homer Simpson |
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finding flights not connecting in the US (carrying liquor)
Why bother? Booze is cheaper in the US than just about anywhere else
on the planet, even allowing for 'duty free' which it rarely ever actually is and what difference would it make? One or two bucks? I would rather have the luxury of less hand carry and hassle than save a couple of bucks. Even if I have a direct flight and you can buy duty free on arrival I never do because I know I can get it cheaper outside the airport. On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 18:51:30 -0400 (EDT), Jack Ryan wrote: If alcohol is bought at the airport and carried on in a sealed bag, there is a problem connecting to another flight inside the US. The U.S does not respect the sealed-bag paradigm, so carried alcohol must be moved to the checked luggage, risking breakage and overweight baggage fees. So how can someone search for flights to the U.S. that require no U.S. connections, but allow any number of non-US connections? |
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finding flights not connecting in the US (carrying liquor)
Use a site like ITA software to look for connections, but I'm pretty
sure that if you don't find a direct flight from outside North America in the first ten seconds, there aren't any. Searching for direct flights is easy on ITA: LHR :: f LAX But that's overly restrictive because it cuts out non-US connections, which allow the sealed carry-on. The only way to do this is with many searches, iteratively negating every US connection that appears in results. E.g. LHR :: ~PHL,MCO,ORD,TPA,DEN,CLE,DET,CMH,DFW,MDW,EWR,LAS* LAX It's sloppy and cumbersome to do that, and worse it's substractive. That is, it probably eliminates cities without adding more to the solution space. I would rather see the search engine consider traversing cities not normally relevant to offset the exclusion. BTW, carrying liquor is just one use case. Alternatively, someone might want long layovers in foreign cities, just to experience more different/interesting places. |
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finding flights not connecting in the US (carrying liquor)
Why bother? Booze is cheaper in the US than just about anywhere else
on the planet, The US is about the worst place on the planet to find quality beer, and when you find it it's nowhere near the price of water (unlike other countries). |
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finding flights not connecting in the US (carrying liquor)
But that's overly restrictive because it cuts out non-US connections,
which allow the sealed carry-on. Remember that most US airports do not have customs facilities. If you can't find a flight from London or Amsterdam or Frankfurt to a city, you can be reasonably sure that there aren't any overseas flights to it at all. One possibility is to connect at an airport with US preclearance. I know that in Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal, you go directly from an incoming international flight to US customs. CATSA says they allow duty free security bags but it's not clear whether they allow them on US flights: http://www.catsa.gc.ca/duty-free-purchases If they don't, you have a problem, because they have an expedited baggage system where you don't normally collect your bags when you connect, so you can't easily stick them in your checked luggage. For other airports with preclearance, I don't think there's provision for airside transfer from international to US. I know there isn't at Nassau (Bahamas), but if you do connect there, get some John Waitling's rum in the airside duty free. It's really good, and it's not available in the U.S. |
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finding flights not connecting in the US (carrying liquor)
The US is about the worst place on the planet to find quality beer,
That used to be true. Now we have a gazillion microbreweries, many of which distribute in supermarkets and liquor stores, and a lot of the beer is quite good. |
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