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Old February 19th, 2011, 12:21 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Dallas
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Just wondering if there's a worthwhile translation device to carry around.


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Old February 19th, 2011, 03:45 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Erilar
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Dallas wrote:
Just wondering if there's a worthwhile translation device to carry around.

Most machine computers will mess up variously if you rely on them too
heavily, but there are some programs for simple tasks.


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Old February 19th, 2011, 11:38 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Martin wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:21:45 -0600, Dallas
wrote:


Just wondering if there's a worthwhile translation device to carry around.


Notebook with access to google translate?


I've got an app on my ipod (Word Lens) which looks at text through the
camera and in real time displays the transalation. I have the Spanish to
English plugin, which I don't really need, but it's been useful for
trying it out. For large text (e.g. signs) it works very well, including
on a web page. Translating a book page is possible but not very
practical- it's better for small amounts of text- works with menus quite
well for example. It's in its infancy but that kind of technology could
be useful as it improves.

The translation tends to do as well as what's currently available on
google...

Of course, the available apps with translation dictionaries are useful,
and the portability of these small devices makes them convenient.

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Old February 19th, 2011, 06:32 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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On Feb 19, 11:43*am, Martin wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:21:45 -0600, Dallas
wrote:



Just wondering if there's a worthwhile translation device to carry around.


Notebook with access to google translate?
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Why use google? Your computer's browser should have a translation
facility (I believe mine is Google, but I might be mistaken.) . Mine
works fairly well for translating German, but tend to really mess up
on proper names which shouldn't be translated. But the computer often
does, making for some pretty weird text. But going back to the
original text and returning to the translation can easily fix many of
these.

George
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Old February 19th, 2011, 07:47 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Mxsmanic
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Dallas writes:

Just wondering if there's a worthwhile translation device to carry around.


If you stay in Paris and spend your time primarily in places where there are
lots of tourists (and such places are legion in Paris), you won't need a
translator, as most people in regular contact with foreigners speak at least a
little bit of English these days.

If you stray off the beaten path or into the provides, a translator might be
more useful ... although a phrase book could work just as well.

For example, if you walk into Louis Vuitton on the Champs-Elysées avenue,
everyone there will speak English. But if you walk into a do-it-yourself
stores (like the very interesting basement DIY center at the BHV store),
you'll be in an area that typically is visited by only locals (how many
tourists are looking to build a new kitchen?), and most of the staff probably
won't speak English.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 04:17 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
poldy
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In article ,
Martin wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:21:45 -0600, Dallas
wrote:


Just wondering if there's a worthwhile translation device to carry around.


Notebook with access to google translate?


Google Translate is a smart phone app too.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 08:27 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Johannes Kleese
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Dallas writes:

Just wondering if there's a worthwhile translation device to carry around.


If you stay in Paris and spend your time primarily in places where there are
lots of tourists (and such places are legion in Paris), you won't need a
translator, as most people in regular contact with foreigners speak at least a
little bit of English these days.


Well, you usually get ripped off if you walk up to a local and don't try
to speak at least a few words in the local language.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 09:02 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Markku Grönroos[_2_]
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20.2.2011 10:27, Johannes Kleese kirjoitti:
Mxsmanic wrote:
Dallas writes:

Just wondering if there's a worthwhile translation device to carry around.


If you stay in Paris and spend your time primarily in places where there are
lots of tourists (and such places are legion in Paris), you won't need a
translator, as most people in regular contact with foreigners speak at least a
little bit of English these days.


Well, you usually get ripped off if you walk up to a local and don't try
to speak at least a few words in the local language.

That's how I respond in Finland when a foreigner is approaching me and
tries to communicate in bad English. I am still learning ndebele. No
kidding.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 09:40 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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On Feb 19, 1:21*am, Dallas wrote:
Just wondering if there's a worthwhile translation device to carry around..

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of course there is, but she costs money....
 




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