Don't spend your US Dollars in Canada !!!!!!

On 24 Dec 2004 15:22:53 GMT, (gman99) wrote:

Funny, I was taught it in a US school along with the many times
movements in Canada wanted Canada to join the US. Forgot those did
you?

Really....do you care to elaborate ?? When did we ever want to join the US
(more than a group of 3 standing on a corner that is). Which provinces /
territories wanted to join the US ?

Who said you? I said there were movements in Canada for annexation to
the US. One, for example, around the Civil War time was:

"Charles Tupper was a warm advocate of Confederation, and did more
than any other public man to induce his native province, Nova Scotia
(Acadia), to enter the union in 1867. Joseph Howe, a much greater
statesman than Tupper, and a man of vast influence, was amongst the
opponents of the measure in question, and was suspected of a
preference for Annexation to the United States. In the cartoon the
Province is represented as halting between the two opinions, and the
loyal artist takes pains to point out that the advantages are all in
the way that leads 'to Ottawa.'

I studied this over 40 years ago and remembered the professor
commenting on these movements at various times in Canadian history.
The only reason I remembered it is that it seemed so bizarre.

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:10:22 -0500, Dave Smith
wrote:

wrote:

Funny, I was taught it in a US school along with the many times
movements in Canada wanted Canada to join the US. Forgot those did
you?

There were a few small groups who were interested in joining the US, but then
we have also have the Rhinoceros Party running in our elections. But think
about it for a moment. At the time of the revolution, Canada was primarily
French speaking under British control after many years of battling with
American colonists. They were not crazy about being under British rule, and
had no love of Americans. Then there were the Loyalists, people who had fled
political persecution in the US. An attempted invasion of Canada was
repelled, primarily by French Canadians. Then along came the War of 1812
when US forces attempted to seize Canada, another attempted invasion that was
repelled. That invasion was followed about 20 years later by the Fenian
invasion. So you have three attempted invasions repelled, compared to a
fringe political movement so minor as to be a non issue.


All true. I was merely commenting that the opposite had also occurred
as well. Certainly as valid as those claiming here that if one foot
of a US state is above the southernmost point of Canada that makes it
a state north of Canada isn't it?

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:10:22 -0500, Dave Smith
wrote:

wrote:

Funny, I was taught it in a US school along with the many times
movements in Canada wanted Canada to join the US. Forgot those did
you?

There were a few small groups who were interested in joining the US, but then
we have also have the Rhinoceros Party running in our elections. But think
about it for a moment. At the time of the revolution, Canada was primarily
French speaking under British control after many years of battling with
American colonists. They were not crazy about being under British rule, and
had no love of Americans. Then there were the Loyalists, people who had fled
political persecution in the US. An attempted invasion of Canada was
repelled, primarily by French Canadians. Then along came the War of 1812
when US forces attempted to seize Canada, another attempted invasion that was
repelled. That invasion was followed about 20 years later by the Fenian
invasion. So you have three attempted invasions repelled, compared to a
fringe political movement so minor as to be a non issue.


All true. I was merely commenting that the opposite had also occurred
as well. Certainly as valid as those claiming here that if one foot
of a US state is above the southernmost point of Canada that makes it
a state north of Canada isn't it?

"Charles Tupper was a warm advocate of Confederation, and did more
than any other public man to induce his native province, Nova Scotia
(Acadia), to enter the union in 1867. Joseph Howe, a much greater
statesman than Tupper, and a man of vast influence, was amongst the
opponents of the measure in question,

Joseph Howe was the champion of Freedom of the Press...I'm sure he did have
a few battles with the government of the day but Joe was fighting the
British government long before Canada was a country.

"Charles Tupper was a warm advocate of Confederation, and did more
than any other public man to induce his native province, Nova Scotia
(Acadia), to enter the union in 1867. Joseph Howe, a much greater
statesman than Tupper, and a man of vast influence, was amongst the
opponents of the measure in question,

Joseph Howe was the champion of Freedom of the Press...I'm sure he did have
a few battles with the government of the day but Joe was fighting the
British government long before Canada was a country.

wrote in
:

On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 11:10:22 -0500, Dave Smith
wrote:

wrote:

Funny, I was taught it in a US school along with the many times
movements in Canada wanted Canada to join the US. Forgot those did
you?

There were a few small groups who were interested in joining the US,
but then we have also have the Rhinoceros Party running in our
elections. But think about it for a moment. At the time of the
revolution, Canada was primarily French speaking under British control
after many years of battling with American colonists. They were not
crazy about being under British rule, and had no love of Americans.
Then there were the Loyalists, people who had fled political
persecution in the US. An attempted invasion of Canada was repelled,
primarily by French Canadians. Then along came the War of 1812 when
US forces attempted to seize Canada, another attempted invasion that
was repelled. That invasion was followed about 20 years later by the
Fenian invasion. So you have three attempted invasions repelled,
compared to a fringe political movement so minor as to be a non issue.


All true. I was merely commenting that the opposite had also occurred
as well. Certainly as valid as those claiming here that if one foot
of a US state is above the southernmost point of Canada that makes it
a state north of Canada isn't it?


Let us not forget Maine which actually voted to stay with Canada for a
while.

On 24 Dec 2004 18:45:09 GMT, (gman99) wrote:


"Charles Tupper was a warm advocate of Confederation, and did more
than any other public man to induce his native province, Nova Scotia
(Acadia), to enter the union in 1867. Joseph Howe, a much greater
statesman than Tupper, and a man of vast influence, was amongst the
opponents of the measure in question,

Joseph Howe was the champion of Freedom of the Press...I'm sure he did have
a few battles with the government of the day but Joe was fighting the
British government long before Canada was a country.

That was the motivation of most, if not all, of the pro-annexation
crowd as I remember.

On 24 Dec 2004 18:45:09 GMT, (gman99) wrote:


"Charles Tupper was a warm advocate of Confederation, and did more
than any other public man to induce his native province, Nova Scotia
(Acadia), to enter the union in 1867. Joseph Howe, a much greater
statesman than Tupper, and a man of vast influence, was amongst the
opponents of the measure in question,

Joseph Howe was the champion of Freedom of the Press...I'm sure he did have
a few battles with the government of the day but Joe was fighting the
British government long before Canada was a country.

That was the motivation of most, if not all, of the pro-annexation
crowd as I remember.

All true. I was merely commenting that the opposite had also occurred
as well. Certainly as valid as those claiming here that if one foot
of a US state is above the southernmost point of Canada that makes it
a state north of Canada isn't it?


Let us not forget Maine which actually voted to stay with Canada for a
while.

That's why the two of them have long cornered the lobster market.

All true. I was merely commenting that the opposite had also occurred
as well. Certainly as valid as those claiming here that if one foot
of a US state is above the southernmost point of Canada that makes it
a state north of Canada isn't it?


Let us not forget Maine which actually voted to stay with Canada for a
while.

That's why the two of them have long cornered the lobster market.