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  #11  
Old March 3rd, 2008, 03:14 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.libertarian,rec.travel.usa-canada
Jerry Kraus
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On Mar 2, 5:31*pm, MACK DADDY wrote:
On Mar 2, 12:16*pm, Jerry Kraus wrote:





On Mar 1, 7:31*pm, Mani Deli wrote:


On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:21:49 -0500, "no surrender"


wrote:


Canada was always a police state. *


Total Bull****.


*****
Whew. Is that why so many freedom loving Canadians migrated southward?


Total Bull****!


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Indeed. *What restrictions are there on police power in Ontario and
Quebec? *Criminal law is totally a federal jurisdiction, but the
police are paid by the municipalities and the provinces. *The Ontario
and Quebec police are powers unto themselves, and they know it. *The
police here ARE the government. *And, they tell you as much.- Hide quoted text -


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Canada is cool eh!- Hide quoted text -

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It's different. Quite unique in some ways. Cold, and controlled.
And, very, very different from the U.S. Ain't too big on
individualism, freedom of speech or freedom in general.

  #12  
Old March 3rd, 2008, 07:59 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.libertarian,rec.travel.usa-canada
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Jerry Kraus wrote:


Canada is cool eh!- Hide quoted text -

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It's different. Quite unique in some ways. Cold, and controlled.
And, very, very different from the U.S. Ain't too big on
individualism, freedom of speech or freedom in general.


LOL. That must explain why Howard Stern was fined millions of dollars for saying naughty
words on his radio show and why American television and radio is so highly censored.


  #13  
Old March 3rd, 2008, 08:04 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.libertarian,rec.travel.usa-canada
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On Mar 3, 2:59 pm, Dave Smith wrote:
Jerry Kraus wrote:

Canada is cool eh!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


It's different. Quite unique in some ways. Cold, and controlled.
And, very, very different from the U.S. Ain't too big on
individualism, freedom of speech or freedom in general.


LOL. That must explain why Howard Stern was fined millions of dollars for saying naughty
words on his radio show and why American television and radio is so highly censored.


first time I ever saw the sopranos it was late at nite at my house in
canada....ctc I think was the network...ran unedited.....now its on a
and e is almost impossible to follow with all the edits....
  #14  
Old March 3rd, 2008, 09:23 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.libertarian,rec.travel.usa-canada
Jerry Kraus
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On Mar 3, 1:59*pm, Dave Smith wrote:
Jerry Kraus wrote:

Canada is cool eh!- Hide quoted text -


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It's different. *Quite unique in some ways. * Cold, and controlled.
And, very, very different from the U.S. *Ain't too big on
individualism, freedom of speech or freedom in general.


LOL. That must explain why Howard Stern was fined millions of dollars for saying naughty
words on his radio show and why American television and radio is so highly censored.


You're referring to censorship of sexuality, in prime time. That's
not exactly freedom of speech, although it is freedom of expression.
And it's in a very specific context. There are virtually no
restrictions on expression in American media as a whole. Sexual
violence is permitted in American pornography in many States, for
example. It is highly illegal in Canada. Expressions of hostility
and anger, particularly against the government, are much more likely
to be seen in U.S. media than in Canadian media. Good God, Jean
Chretien, when he was Prime Minister kicked and punched a man simply
for walking into his path on national television, and Canadians
applauded him! And then they charged the man who was kicked and
punched with assault!

Canadians are so locked into their system that they don't realize how
repressive it is. Any expression of anger can be called a "Hate
Crime", and it is. On a regular basis. You will, no doubt, say these
are justified charges against people who are "dangerous", but they
have done nothing, and they have planned to do nothing. They were
just angry. They're reported on these sites, with references, on a
regular basis.

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Old March 3rd, 2008, 10:36 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.libertarian,rec.travel.usa-canada
Dave Smith
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Jerry Kraus wrote:



LOL. That must explain why Howard Stern was fined millions of dollars for saying naughty
words on his radio show and why American television and radio is so highly censored.


You're referring to censorship of sexuality, in prime time.


Sexuality? Stern was fined for content that was ""lewd and vulgar, and that it appeared to
have been used to pander, titillate and shock." and for too many references to sex and
excretory functions. What a coincidence that Stern was constantly railing against the Bush
administration, and that the head of the FCC was Colin Powell's son.

Bono was also admonished for having been so crass as to use the expression "****ing
brilliant".



That's
not exactly freedom of speech, although it is freedom of expression.
And it's in a very specific context. There are virtually no
restrictions on expression in American media as a whole.


What


Sexual
violence is permitted in American pornography in many States, for
example. It is highly illegal in Canada.


That is curious because so many prudes express the opinion that pornography leads to violence
but never seem to make the same connection between the constant barrage of violence in the
entertainment media and violence. Go figger..

Expressions of hostility
and anger, particularly against the government, are much more likely
to be seen in U.S. media than in Canadian media. Good God, Jean
Chretien, when he was Prime Minister kicked and punched a man simply
for walking into his path on national television,


Oh come off it. I am sure that you realize that the guy didn't just simply walk into him. He
was a protester, and walking into him was no accident.



and Canadians
applauded him! And then they charged the man who was kicked and
punched with assault!


And so he should have been.


  #16  
Old March 4th, 2008, 06:32 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.libertarian,rec.travel.usa-canada
Jerry Kraus
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Default Canada becoming police state?

On Mar 3, 4:36*pm, Dave Smith wrote:
Jerry Kraus wrote:

LOL. That must explain why Howard Stern was fined millions of dollars for saying naughty
words on his radio show and why American television and radio is so highly censored.


You're *referring to censorship of sexuality, in prime time.


Sexuality? Stern was fined for content that was ""lewd and vulgar, and that it appeared to
have been used to pander, titillate and shock." and for too many references to sex and
excretory functions. *What a coincidence that Stern was constantly railing against the Bush
administration, and that the head of the FCC was Colin Powell's son.

Bono was also admonished for having been so crass as to use the expression "****ing
brilliant".

*That's
not exactly freedom of speech, although it is freedom of expression.
And it's in a very specific context. *There are virtually no
restrictions on expression in American media as a whole.


What

Sexual
violence is permitted in American pornography in many States, for
example. *It is highly illegal in Canada.


That is curious because so many prudes express the opinion that pornography leads to violence
but never seem to make the same connection between the constant barrage of violence in the
entertainment media and violence. Go figger..

Expressions of hostility
and anger, particularly against the government, are much more likely
to be seen in U.S. media than in Canadian media. *Good God, Jean
Chretien, when he was Prime Minister kicked and punched a man simply
for walking into his path on national television,


Oh come off it. I am sure that you realize that the guy didn't just simply walk into him. He
was a protester, and walking into him was no accident.

and Canadians
applauded him! *And then they charged the man who was kicked and
punched with assault!


And so he should have been.


That man didn't touch Chretien. He just walked into his path. Then,
Chretien attacked him because he was paranoid about the guy who had
wandered into his home past the RCMP gaurds a month or two before.
Canadians grovel at the feet of authority. Which they are welcome to
do. Not for me, thankyou.

  #17  
Old March 4th, 2008, 09:17 PM posted to alt.politics,alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.libertarian,rec.travel.usa-canada
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"Jerry Kraus" wrote in message
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On Mar 3, 4:36 pm, Dave Smith wrote:
Jerry Kraus wrote:

LOL. That must explain why Howard Stern was fined millions of dollars
for saying naughty
words on his radio show and why American television and radio is so
highly censored.


You're referring to censorship of sexuality, in prime time.


Sexuality? Stern was fined for content that was ""lewd and vulgar, and
that it appeared to
have been used to pander, titillate and shock." and for too many
references to sex and
excretory functions. What a coincidence that Stern was constantly railing
against the Bush
administration, and that the head of the FCC was Colin Powell's son.

Bono was also admonished for having been so crass as to use the expression
"****ing
brilliant".

That's
not exactly freedom of speech, although it is freedom of expression.
And it's in a very specific context. There are virtually no
restrictions on expression in American media as a whole.


What

Sexual
violence is permitted in American pornography in many States, for
example. It is highly illegal in Canada.


That is curious because so many prudes express the opinion that
pornography leads to violence
but never seem to make the same connection between the constant barrage of
violence in the
entertainment media and violence. Go figger..

Expressions of hostility
and anger, particularly against the government, are much more likely
to be seen in U.S. media than in Canadian media. Good God, Jean
Chretien, when he was Prime Minister kicked and punched a man simply
for walking into his path on national television,


Oh come off it. I am sure that you realize that the guy didn't just simply
walk into him. He
was a protester, and walking into him was no accident.

and Canadians
applauded him! And then they charged the man who was kicked and
punched with assault!


And so he should have been.


That man didn't touch Chretien. He just walked into his path. Then,
Chretien attacked him because he was paranoid about the guy who had
wandered into his home past the RCMP gaurds a month or two before.
Canadians grovel at the feet of authority. Which they are welcome to
do. Not for me, thankyou.

Canadians are NOT all cut from the same cloth. Lumping an entire country's
citizens together is just plain stupid.





  #18  
Old March 5th, 2008, 08:57 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada,alt.politics,alt.politics.libertarian
RickCanada
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On Mar 1, 10:39*am, Joe wrote:
One example:
Toronto is buying millions of dollars worth of Taser guns right after
shutting down several homeless shelters.
Story athttp://Muvy.org


Lack of freedom?????? How absurd! What other country would allow the
uninhibited and uncensored use of poutine?
  #19  
Old March 5th, 2008, 06:42 PM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada,alt.politics,alt.politics.libertarian
sharx35
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"RickCanada" wrote in message
...
On Mar 1, 10:39 am, Joe wrote:
One example:
Toronto is buying millions of dollars worth of Taser guns right after
shutting down several homeless shelters.
Story athttp://Muvy.org


Lack of freedom?????? How absurd! What other country would allow the
uninhibited and uncensored use of poutine?

A country trying to depopulate?



  #20  
Old March 8th, 2008, 06:36 AM posted to rec.travel.usa-canada,alt.politics,alt.politics.libertarian
RickCanada
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Lack of freedom?????? How absurd! *What other country would allow the
uninhibited and uncensored use of poutine?

A country trying to depopulate?


Or perhaps defoliate.

 




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