838 violent incidents in 107 days on London buses

On Wed, 28 May 2008 04:01:17 -0700 (PDT), Andrew Thomas
wrote:


The man standing at the back of the Clapham Omnibus is playing Shaggy
or something else suitably "urban" at 140 dB through a ****ty mobile
phone loudspeaker and glaring at you menacingly before throwing his
rubbish around the bus and saying "fock, fock" to his hooded
neighbour. Nice.

Blimey! They get around! His brother and a mate were doing that at the
back of an M48 bus in Berlin the other day! (Except that they were
saying "Scheisse" and "Arschloch" instead of "fock, fock")

All they wants is rispek, innit?



Keith (formerly of Bristol UK)
now moved to Berlin/nach Berlin umgezogen

From "William Black" , on Wed, 28 May 2008
13:19:42 +0100 :

You're much more likely to end up falling under a bus than get stabbed
riding one...

Now this is much more serious than the availability of firearms in 1911 --
the tenses of your verbal phrases do not agree!

Shame!

FACE

Keith Anderson wrote:

Blimey! They get around! His brother and a mate were doing that at the
back of an M48 bus in Berlin the other day! (Except that they were
saying "Scheisse" and "Arschloch" instead of "fock, fock")

And in Milan the other day on a city tram.

E.

On May 28, 1:19*pm, "William Black"
wrote:

You're much more likely to end up falling under a bus than get stabbed
riding one...

Irrelevant statistic. One can avoid being run over by a bus; one
cannot avoid being stabbed on one if you rely on it to travel around.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7408998.stm

On May 28, 4:47 pm, Andrew Thomas
wrote:
On May 28, 1:19 pm, "William Black"
wrote:

You're much more likely to end up falling under a bus than get stabbed
riding one...

Irrelevant statistic. One can avoid being run over by a bus; one
cannot avoid being stabbed on one if you rely on it to travel around.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7408998.stm

Released on bail. Brilliant. What do you have to carry around to get
banged up until a trial , a nuclear bomb? Does the judge think they're
all going to go home to tea and cakes with mummy?

B2003

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On May 28, 4:47 pm, Andrew Thomas
wrote:
On May 28, 1:19 pm, "William Black"
wrote:

You're much more likely to end up falling under a bus than get stabbed
riding one...

Irrelevant statistic. One can avoid being run over by a bus; one
cannot avoid being stabbed on one if you rely on it to travel around.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7408998.stm

Released on bail. Brilliant. What do you have to carry around to get
banged up until a trial , a nuclear bomb? Does the judge think they're
all going to go home to tea and cakes with mummy?


What have they done that is worthy of imprisonment?

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

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On May 28, 4:47 pm, Andrew Thomas
wrote:
On May 28, 1:19 pm, "William Black"
wrote:

You're much more likely to end up falling under a bus than get stabbed
riding one...

Irrelevant statistic. One can avoid being run over by a bus; one
cannot avoid being stabbed on one if you rely on it to travel around.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7408998.stm

Released on bail. Brilliant. What do you have to carry around to get
banged up until a trial , a nuclear bomb? Does the judge think they're
all going to go home to tea and cakes with mummy?


What have they done that is worthy of imprisonment?

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On May 29, 9:22 am, "William Black"
wrote:
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On May 28, 4:47 pm, Andrew Thomas
wrote:
On May 28, 1:19 pm, "William Black"
wrote:

You're much more likely to end up falling under a bus than get stabbed
riding one...

Irrelevant statistic. One can avoid being run over by a bus; one
cannot avoid being stabbed on one if you rely on it to travel around.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7408998.stm

Released on bail. Brilliant. What do you have to carry around to get
banged up until a trial , a nuclear bomb? Does the judge think they're
all going to go home to tea and cakes with mummy?

What have they done that is worthy of imprisonment?

Err, carrying weapons on public transport? This is london we're
talking about here and not Mogadishu right? Last time I looked it was
illegal for a brats to carry offensive weapons.

B2003

On May 28, 1:19*pm, "William Black"
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"RobWilton" wrote in message

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"FACE" wrote in message
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From *John B , *on Wed, 28 May 2008 02:37:10 -0700
(PDT)
:

On 27 May, 22:24, ZGoyfire Radio "WE...are the Good Guys"
wrote:
The scale of violence on London's buses is revealed today. An average
of eight crimes such as stabbings, sexual assaults and beatings are
reported each day - as well as 160 cases of criminal damage, fights,
fare disputes and drunken clashes.

Seems pretty reasonable - *with 2-3 million bus passengers per day (c..
2 billion journeys per year, most of which are returns), a 0.0084%
chance of being a victim of any crime, and a 0.00042% chance of being
a victim of serious crime, are pretty good odds.

Well yes, but what does the man standing at the back of the Clapham
Omnibus
think?

FACE
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The man standing at the back of the Clapham Omnibus is thinking about how
long the ambulance is going to take before he bleeds to death from stab
wounds.

So he's the one of four in a million who gets involved in anything...

Silly man...

You're much more likely to end up falling under a bus than get stabbed
riding one...

The two events are unconnected. It makes no sense to play down one
because the chances of it happening are different from the chances of
some unconnected event happening.

On May 28, 10:37*am, John B wrote:
On 27 May, 22:24, ‹ŽGoyfire Radio ‹ "WE...are the Good Guys"

wrote:
The scale of violence on London's buses is revealed today. An average
of eight crimes such as stabbings, sexual assaults and beatings are
reported each day - as well as 160 cases of criminal damage, fights,
fare disputes and drunken clashes.

Seems pretty reasonable - *with 2-3 million bus passengers per day (c.
2 billion journeys per year, most of which are returns), a 0.0084%
chance of being a victim of any crime, and a 0.00042% chance of being
a victim of serious crime, are pretty good odds.

Another irrelevance.
The point is not the absolute chance of something happening, but the
comparison of that chance with the chance of a similar event happening
in previous ages. You need to see what is different now from what was
happening within living memory, say fifty years ago.