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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
Perhaps one should define "Phoenix"? I had always believed the allegations that Los Angeles was "too spread out" until I moved to Arizona! There may be rail service in Phoenix itself, but I've lived here for more than a year now, and have yet to find myself anywhere NEAR "downtown" Phoenix! Well, a 20-mile light rail system can only cover about 25% of the city in any given direction. In contrast, a 7-mile system can span the entire city of Paris proper--and Paris has 19 lines. |
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Dusty Furtile Morrocan writes:
By roughly how much are they expecting car usage to drop? 0.000000000048772%, once the system is fully broken in and at peak usage hours. |
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On the particular moment of Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:09:36 +0100 in
relation to Mary's disappointingly immaculate rumpy pumpy, Mxsmanic put forth: Dusty Furtile Morrocan writes: By roughly how much are they expecting car usage to drop? 0.000000000048772%, once the system is fully broken in and at peak usage hours. Did you round up or down the least significant digit? Of course a simple light rail system won't have any great effect, but it seems to be a popular choice for local governments everywhere (even here in Genova), despite that they rarely bring much benefit. It would be much cheaper to carve bicycle lanes of various roads, and would probably be used more. Not the bicycles would be so great in the furnace of Phoenix in summer. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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I obsessively check the site every day for the rates on the Euro and pound
against the Canadian and US dollars, and the US dollar against the Canuck buck. Masochistic of me, I know, but it's like passing a bad traffic accident-- it's almost impossible to stop yourself from looking. GMW like watching 1 pound = 1 euro......then the UK can adopt the euro sans probleme ;-) |
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Dusty Furtile Morrocan writes:
Did you round up or down the least significant digit? I rounded up, motivated by my natural optimism. Of course a simple light rail system won't have any great effect, but it seems to be a popular choice for local governments everywhere (even here in Genova), despite that they rarely bring much benefit. It would be much cheaper to carve bicycle lanes of various roads, and would probably be used more. Not the bicycles would be so great in the furnace of Phoenix in summer. The problem of cities like Phoenix is that they just aren't laid out to favor any form of collective transportation. Their design assumes that everyone will have a personal vehicle. Once this assumption takes root and guides the development of the area for more than half a century, there isn't really any way to change it. One compromise would be to build mass transit in specific areas and encourage development around it, so that you might eventually have a dense city center or residential/business district that can profit from mass transit, with no need for cars. But Phoenix doesn't really have any area suitable for that experiment; even downtown areas are sparsely occupied compared to other cities, and they additionally do not have the proper mix of business and residential space. If fuel problems ever progress to the point that driving individual vehicles becomes truly not feasible or perhaps even impossible, cities like Phoenix and Los Angeles may wither and die, except for one or two core areas that will redevelop into Manhattan-style neighborhoods. |
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On 15 Mar, 13:35, Mxsmanic wrote:
Dusty Furtile Morrocan writes: Did you round up or down the least significant digit? I rounded up, motivated by my natural optimism. Of course a simple light rail system won't have any great effect, but it seems to be a popular choice for local governments everywhere (even here in Genova), despite that they rarely bring much benefit. It would be much cheaper to carve bicycle lanes of various roads, and would probably be used more. Not the bicycles would be so great in the furnace of Phoenix in summer. The problem of cities like Phoenix is that they just aren't laid out to favor any form of collective transportation. Their design assumes that everyone will have a personal vehicle. Once this assumption takes root and guides the development of the area for more than half a century, there isn't really any way to change it. One compromise would be to build mass transit in specific areas and encourage development around it, so that you might eventually have a dense city center or residential/business district that can profit from mass transit, with no need for cars. But Phoenix doesn't really have any area suitable for that experiment; even downtown areas are sparsely occupied compared to other cities, and they additionally do not have the proper mix of business and residential space. If fuel problems ever progress to the point that driving individual vehicles becomes truly not feasible or perhaps even impossible, cities like Phoenix and Los Angeles may wither and die, except for one or two core areas that will redevelop into Manhattan-style neighborhoods. don't they have bicycles ? |
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On the particular moment of Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:35:56 +0100 in
relation to Mary's disappointingly immaculate rumpy pumpy, Mxsmanic put forth: Dusty Furtile Morrocan writes: Did you round up or down the least significant digit? I rounded up, motivated by my natural optimism. I feel better since I gave up hope. Of course a simple light rail system won't have any great effect, but it seems to be a popular choice for local governments everywhere (even here in Genova), despite that they rarely bring much benefit. It would be much cheaper to carve bicycle lanes of various roads, and would probably be used more. Not the bicycles would be so great in the furnace of Phoenix in summer. The problem of cities like Phoenix is that they just aren't laid out to favor any form of collective transportation. Their design assumes that everyone will have a personal vehicle. Once this assumption takes root and guides the development of the area for more than half a century, there isn't really any way to change it. Much of the USA has been built around the assumption that cars will be available to all forever. That demand is enormous, and unless the USA's middle classes are going to be decimated, a way will have to found to maintain this mode of transport. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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In article , Dusty Furtile
Morrocan says... Much of the USA has been built around the assumption that cars will be available to all forever. That demand is enormous, and unless the USA's middle classes are going to be decimated, a way will have to found to maintain this mode of transport. It's just a matter of finding a cheap and clean source of energy (perhaps fusion reactors?). Then switch to electrical cars and the problem of individual transportation is solved. -- Alfred Molon http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe |
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"Alfred Molon" kirjoitti s.com... In article , Dusty Furtile Morrocan says... Much of the USA has been built around the assumption that cars will be available to all forever. That demand is enormous, and unless the USA's middle classes are going to be decimated, a way will have to found to maintain this mode of transport. It's just a matter of finding a cheap and clean source of energy (perhaps fusion reactors?). Then switch to electrical cars and the problem of individual transportation is solved. -- Very powerful and capacious batteries so that we can build cars around electric engines which are a lot more efficient, simple and cheaper than combustion engines. |
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