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Old February 25th, 2010, 01:20 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe,soc.retirement
Tis Odonovan, Himself
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Default LA Times: Most 'tea party' followers are baby boomers reliving the'60s

LA Times: Most 'tea party' followers are baby boomers reliving the
'60s

A poll debunks assumptions about the movement, showing that it's
largely middle-class, college-educated, white and male.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/PJs0225

Excerpts:

"...CNN gives us some hard data on the Tea Party Nation.

Neither "average Americans," as they like to portray themselves, nor
trailer-park "Deliverance" throwbacks, as their lefty detractors would
have us believe, tea partyers are more highly educated and wealthier
than the rest of America. Nearly 75% are college educated, and two-
thirds earn more than $50,000....

....Most came of age in the 1960s, an era distinguished by widespread
disrespect for government. In their wonder years, they learned that
politics was about protesting the Establishment and shouting down the
Man. No wonder they're doing that now....."
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Old February 25th, 2010, 01:32 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe,soc.retirement
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Default LA Times: Most 'tea party' followers are baby boomers relivingthe '60s

Hardly they may be baby boomers but they are Republicans who loved
every minute of their heroes: Nixon and Reagan. They thought the war
protesters were despicable and communist. These folks are sad in
their childish talk about being Patriots from 1776. They are more
like girl scouts waving flags in front of Piggley Wiggley.

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Old February 25th, 2010, 05:23 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe,soc.retirement
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Default LA Times: Most 'tea party' followers are baby boomers relivingthe '60s

On Feb 25, 6:20*am, "Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote:
LA Times: Most 'tea party' followers are baby boomers reliving the
'60s

A poll debunks assumptions about the movement, showing that it's
largely middle-class, college-educated, white and male.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/PJs0225

Excerpts:

"...CNN gives us some hard data on the Tea Party Nation.

Neither "average Americans," as they like to portray themselves, nor
trailer-park "Deliverance" throwbacks, as their lefty detractors would
have us believe, tea partyers are more highly educated and wealthier
than the rest of America. Nearly 75% are college educated, and two-
thirds earn more than $50,000....

...Most came of age in the 1960s, an era distinguished by widespread
disrespect for government. In their wonder years, they learned that
politics was about protesting the Establishment and shouting down the
Man. No wonder they're doing that now....."


America's federal government is a terminal patient. Best to put those
Washington whores back to the street corner. Build something better or
change
Olympic chant to "Jewsa, Jewsa, Jewsa".

http://www.whiterevolution.com/
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Old February 26th, 2010, 01:37 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe,soc.retirement
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"Tis Odonovan, Himself" wrote in news:216cc03f-eb05-
:

LA Times: Most 'tea party' followers are baby boomers reliving the
'60s

A poll debunks assumptions about the movement, showing that it's
largely middle-class, college-educated, white and male.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/PJs0225

Excerpts:

"...CNN gives us some hard data on the Tea Party Nation.

Neither "average Americans," as they like to portray themselves, nor
trailer-park "Deliverance" throwbacks, as their lefty detractors would
have us believe, tea partyers are more highly educated and wealthier
than the rest of America. Nearly 75% are college educated, and two-
thirds earn more than $50,000....

...Most came of age in the 1960s, an era distinguished by widespread
disrespect for government. In their wonder years, they learned that
politics was about protesting the Establishment and shouting down the
Man. No wonder they're doing that now....."




What balderdash. The all-white tea party complainers are nothing
like the 60's radicals. The latter knew what they were for and worked
to get it, the former define themselves only by what they are against.

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Old February 26th, 2010, 02:01 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe,soc.retirement
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Default LA Times: Most 'tea party' followers are baby boomers relivingthe '60s

On Feb 26, 8:37*am, Mitchell Holman wrote:
"Tis Odonovan, *Himself" wrote in news:216cc03f-eb05-
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LA Times: Most 'tea party' followers are baby boomers reliving the
'60s


A poll debunks assumptions about the movement, showing that it's
largely middle-class, college-educated, white and male.


http://preview.tinyurl.com/PJs0225


Excerpts:


"...CNN gives us some hard data on the Tea Party Nation.


Neither "average Americans," as they like to portray themselves, nor
trailer-park "Deliverance" throwbacks, as their lefty detractors would
have us believe, tea partyers are more highly educated and wealthier
than the rest of America. Nearly 75% are college educated, and two-
thirds earn more than $50,000....


...Most came of age in the 1960s, an era distinguished by widespread
disrespect for government. In their wonder years, they learned that
politics was about protesting the Establishment and shouting down the
Man. No wonder they're doing that now....."


* * What balderdash. The all-white tea party complainers are nothing
like the 60's radicals. The latter knew what they were for and worked
to get it, the former define themselves only by what they are against.


You are parroting exactly what your propaganda machine for Leftism,
CNN. expected to find as a result of their poll, Holeman.

Instead, to their surprise they found something different and
reluctantly reported it.

You should learn to read articles before you spout off about them,
Holeman
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Old February 26th, 2010, 02:09 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe,soc.retirement
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Default LA Times: Most 'tea party' followers are baby boomersreliving the '60s

On 26/02/10 14:37, in article
, "Mitchell Holman"
wrote:

What balderdash.



The article
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb...is25-2010feb25

is classed as opinion.

It based its opinion on a CNN poll, the article is entitled

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/17/tea.party.poll/

Who are the Tea Party activists?

So it is a poll about the activists and not the rank and file.

Next "Nearly three-quarters of Tea Party activists attended college,
compared to 54 percent of all Americans, and more than 3 in 4 call
themselves conservatives."

which may be true, the activists in any movement are a minority.
and likely to have higher education than the rank and file.

"According to the survey, most Tea Party activists describe themselves as
Independents.'

"But that's slightly misleading, because 87 percent say they would vote for
the GOP candidate in their congressional district if there were no
third-party candidate endorsed by the Tea Party," Holland said.

Right, the term "independent" is in accurate, I know some very
conservative people who, to avoid being identified with any
political party just say they are "independent". They feel they
are above "all that" superior to the rank and file of either
party.

the download of the poll is

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/im...2/17/rel4b.pdf

interview of about 1000 people by phone.

the one item of note is that 50% of them were from rural
areas. This is atypical of the general populations.

I don't think the poll itself could lead o the conclusion that

"Most 'tea party' followers are baby boomers reliving the '60s"

The age distribution of the T-activist is the same as the general
population. The population distribution is only slightly different.
They are slightly more waspish that the general population
68% vs 50% on religion and 82 vs 71% Whites

If the T-baggers had formed in 1955 they would most likely have
the same mix, except they would be "depression babies".

But in the area the great red hunt was on, so you would have
to ask about those backing Joe McCarthy. Same ilk, different
time.







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Old February 26th, 2010, 06:21 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe,soc.retirement
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From: Earl Evleth
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:09:58 +0100
Subject: LA Times: Most 'tea party' followers are baby boomers reliving
the '60s

On 26/02/10 14:37, in article
, "Mitchell Holman"
wrote:

What balderdash.



The article
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb...is25-2010feb25

is classed as opinion.

It based its opinion on a CNN poll, the article is entitled

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/17/tea.party.poll/

Who are the Tea Party activists?

So it is a poll about the activists and not the rank and file.

Next "Nearly three-quarters of Tea Party activists attended college,
compared to 54 percent of all Americans, and more than 3 in 4 call
themselves conservatives."


There are colleges and colleges. And attending college does not necessarily
mean graduating. Attending a community college for two years is not the
same as attending a four year college. Attending a small religious college
in a small town is not the same as attending a large university in a major
city. Yet in a survey, all of the people who have attended any of the above
institutions for any length of time can claim that they attended college.
It would be interesting if college attendance could be refined as a
category: what kind of college? For how long?

Donna Evleth


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Old February 26th, 2010, 08:28 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe,soc.retirement
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On Feb 26, 1:21*pm, Donna Evleth wrote:
From: Earl Evleth
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:09:58 +0100
Subject: LA Times: Most 'tea party' followers are baby boomers reliving
the *'60s


On 26/02/10 14:37, in article
, "Mitchell Holman"
wrote:


What balderdash.


The article
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb...is25-2010feb25


is classed as opinion.


It based its opinion on a CNN poll, the article is entitled


http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/17/tea.party.poll/


Who are the Tea Party activists?


So it is a poll about the activists and not the rank and file.


Next "Nearly three-quarters of Tea Party activists attended college,
compared to 54 percent of all Americans, and more than 3 in 4 call
themselves conservatives."


There are colleges and colleges. *And attending college does not necessarily
mean graduating. *Attending a community college for two years is not the
same as attending a four year college. *Attending a small religious college
in a small town is not the same as attending a large university in a major
city. *Yet in a survey, all of the people who have attended any of the above
institutions for any length of time can claim that they attended college.
It would be interesting if college attendance could be refined as a
category: what kind of college? *For how long?

Donna Evleth



There are colleges and colleges....

Donna Evleth


And there are degrees and degrees.

Some like the Madame get lowly BA degrees in a snap courses like
Anthropolgy and since no employable skills have been developed as a
result one wouldn't know what the hell to do with said "degree".

Others of us get BS degrees in things like an Industrial Engineering
major with a minor in Accounting and find we are immediately highly
employable and in demand even as a gentlemanly "C" student when we
graduate as a contemporary student to the Madame, graduating back in
the 1950s.
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Old February 28th, 2010, 12:21 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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"Donna Evleth" wrote in message
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From: Earl Evleth
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:09:58 +0100
Subject: LA Times: Most 'tea party' followers are baby boomers
reliving
the '60s

On 26/02/10 14:37, in article
, "Mitchell Holman"
wrote:

What balderdash.



The article
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb...is25-2010feb25

is classed as opinion.

It based its opinion on a CNN poll, the article is entitled

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/17/tea.party.poll/

Who are the Tea Party activists?

So it is a poll about the activists and not the rank and file.

Next "Nearly three-quarters of Tea Party activists attended college,
compared to 54 percent of all Americans, and more than 3 in 4 call
themselves conservatives."


There are colleges and colleges. And attending college does not
necessarily
mean graduating. Attending a community college for two years is not the
same as attending a four year college. Attending a small religious
college
in a small town is not the same as attending a large university in a major
city. Yet in a survey, all of the people who have attended any of the
above
institutions for any length of time can claim that they attended college.
It would be interesting if college attendance could be refined as a
category: what kind of college? For how long?

Donna Evleth



That is absurd...saying that "there are colleges and colleges". Who are you
to judge someone's intelligence based on how many years of college they have
attended? You have to pass an aptitude test (example: SAT) before entering a
college so you do have to have some intelligence. I have known students who
went two years (gasp!) and are more successful than those who have gotten
both their Bachelors and their Masters! My son has had two PhDs in his lab
at the university who he wonders how they ever achieved their degrees..As an
RN, I have seen nursing students come out with a four year degree that LVNs
or those having studied for two years could run circles around as far as
knowledge and common sense. It is not always about the length of your
studies but how you apply the knowledge that you gain....And attending some
"small religious college in a small town is not the same as a four year
college"---your words--- is utterly ridiculous. The teacher/student ratio
means more time is spent with each student making it beneficial and not "
the lost in the crowd" attitude of large universities.

And what do you REALLY know about the Tea Party followers? Just what you
read in the liberal media? There was a Tea Party here in San Antonio, Texas,
a city of 1.3 million, and there were crowds of people there from all walks
of life including professionals and they were not all white as the biased
media seems to want everyone to believe...Just good, honest, hard working
people who want the horrific and wasteful spending by congress and Obama to
stop! We just had an election of city, state, county and federal
representatives and believe me, from listening to many of the people at the
voting poll center; the outcome is most likely to come out just as it did in
NJ, VA, and MA. People are angry and they want to be heard...By the way, I
saw a retired university professor, a FedEx worker, a stay at home mother
and a retired military officer, all friends of mine, at the poll site while
there...these are the type who attend Tea Parties... that you seem to think
are made up of the uneducated masses. You are not here..you do not know!

--Jean


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Old February 28th, 2010, 06:35 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe,soc.retirement
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On Feb 25, 7:32 am, GLOBALIST wrote:
Hardly they may be baby boomers but they are Republicans who loved
every minute of their heroes: Nixon and Reagan. They thought the war
protesters were despicable and communist. These folks are sad in
their childish talk about being Patriots from 1776. They are more
like girl scouts waving flags in front of Piggley Wiggley.


Andy comments:
As long as they obey the laws and pay their taxes, they should
be able to have their say......

It's their country , too.........

Andy in Eureka, Texas
 




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