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I Never Thought I'd Say This, But...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:36:07 -0500, Janet Wilder
wrote: On 3/27/2011 11:21 AM, Thumper wrote: On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:09:50 -0500, Janet Wilder wrote: On 3/26/2011 6:24 PM, Kurt Ullman wrote: In raweb.com, Janet wrote: If you had 6th grade reading comprehension skills, you'd have read that other lines provide it for free. Further, they are not trying to use a medical situation as a profit source. Carnival is by charging $5 for an item that costs them 50 cents. It's not like this is an option to those people who need it to be able to breathe. But are they charging you more for your use than to anyone else that asks for the same thing for other reasons? If they are charging you $5 for "medical grade" water but someone else gets the same jug for $3, then you might have a beef (over and above the why don't they when others will). It isn't that they are using a medical situation as a profit source (unless there is the higher price), it is just that the tight *******s charge for things others give away. I don't know anyone other the users of C-pap and Bi-pap machines who would even want a jug of distilled water. It tastes terrible. Not at all like filtered bottled water. Find someone with sleep apnea who uses one of these machines. They stop breathing 10 times or more every minute while they sleep. Their bodies are starved for oxygen. They need this water for their machines to operate properly. That's BS. The machines work perfectly fine with regular water. I've been using one for years and when I run out of distilled I fill it from the tap. The companies recommend distilled water but it is only a plastic reservoir with a heater underneath. We contacted the company that makes the one my DH uses. It is a Bi-pap machine. They said that under no circumstances should he use anything but distilled water. I would much rather listen to the manufacturer than a nasty poster on Usenet. ymmv Nasty? why don't you investigate and ask what will happen if you use tap water. You're the one who expects it to be furnished free to you. Thumper |
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I Never Thought I'd Say This, But...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:43:13 -0500, Janet Wilder
wrote: On 3/27/2011 11:30 AM, Thumper wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:09:47 -0400, wrote: Janet Wilder wrote: I don't see how anyone can defend this practice, but I guess some folks are so loyal to a brand that they are blinded to the truth. I've never been on a Carnival cruise. How loyal do you think I am being? What I get a kick out of is being angry because the low cost cruise line doesn't provide all the bells and whistles for free. If one thinks they need distilled water for medical reasons, then just pay the 5 dollars. The OP is just nitpicking to justify not sailing on Carnival when no one is asking for justification. We really don't care. I sail with Royal. They are in the same price category as Carnival. Royal provides the water for free. You seem to have missed the part where it costs Carnival about 50 cents for a jug of this water and they are charging $5. What I am objecting to is the fact that Carnival is using people's medical needs to turn a profit. I can't see any caring person not finding this practice a little disgusting, but your humanity seems to be as inadequate as your reading skills. They may be in the same category but I believe that Carnival is $150 to $200 cheaper when comparing most of their 7 day cruises. Yo wouldn't sail with carnival if they gave you the distilled water anyway. Thumper |
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I Never Thought I'd Say This, But...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:37:58 -0500, Janet Wilder
wrote: On 3/27/2011 11:18 AM, Thumper wrote: On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:15:34 -0500, Janet Wilder wrote: On 3/26/2011 6:25 PM, Ray Goldenberg wrote: In raweb.com, Janet wrote: If you had 6th grade reading comprehension skills, you'd have read that other lines provide it for free. Further, they are not trying to use a medical situation as a profit source. Carnival is by charging $5 for an item that costs them 50 cents. That's the business Carnival is in. Why should this item be any different? Next thing you know they'll be charging extra for handicap-accessible cabins and adding a surcharge for plugging in mobility scooters to recharge their batteries.g Hey, a buck's a buck to Carnival. I shudder to think of what would happen if someone had a medical emergency on a Carnival ship. Would they be trying to reap a profit from that, too? I think I'll just keep my trade with the companies who care about the health of their guests. If there are cruise lines and hotels who provide this service at no charge, why would I ever want to sail with a cruise line who gouges people who have a medical problem. I don't care who sails with them. I won't. Carnival's prices are significantly lower than other lines. I don't see why you would expect them to furnish you with distilled water. That is definitely not an excuse. You are really reaching for a justification. I've had a jug of distilled water supplied by a Holiday Inn as an accommodation. You are the one reaching for a justification. To me it sounds like you are whining. Thumper |
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I Never Thought I'd Say This, But...
It seems trivial about the distilled water,what bugs me is they charge
you $7.00 for a mixed drink,and then expect a tip,I will get my drinks at home where i can get 20 to 25 for what it costs for 1 on the cruise ship. not a big drinker but they do gouge you. cruise lover(~~~~~) .. |
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I Never Thought I'd Say This, But...
Do not finf carnival any cheaper than other cruise lines we have sailed
on and they total 50 cruises,but onlt 2 on carnival and did not like either one. cruise lover(~~~~~) .. |
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I Never Thought I'd Say This, But...
Surfer E2468 wrote:
It seems trivial about the distilled water,what bugs me is they charge you $7.00 for a mixed drink,and then expect a tip,I will get my drinks at home where i can get 20 to 25 for what it costs for 1 on the cruise ship. not a big drinker but they do gouge you. The drinks are about the same price as local bars in my town. I don't think that's a gouge. Of course its cheaper to drink at home. But you have to compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges. |
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I Never Thought I'd Say This, But...
In article , Surfer
E2468 wrote: It seems trivial about the distilled water,what bugs me is they charge you $7.00 for a mixed drink,and then expect a tip,I will get my drinks at home where i can get 20 to 25 for what it costs for 1 on the cruise ship. not a big drinker but they do gouge you. Huh? When I have a drink out I expect to pay $7 for a mixed drink plus a tip. That is par for the course. It is hard though to get a cocktail that cheap anymore on many cruise lines. -- Charles |
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I Never Thought I'd Say This, But...
Janet,
Now you know how I feel when at the blackjack table all night betting 25 and 50.00 a hand, yet the casino wouldn't buy me a bottle of water. I realize drinks are not free, but it still wouldn't hurt the casino to buy me a bottle of water. |
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I Never Thought I'd Say This, But...
In article , Surfer
E2468 wrote: Do not finf carnival any cheaper than other cruise lines we have sailed on and they total 50 cruises,but onlt 2 on carnival and did not like either one. I usually see the lowest prices on Carnival, NCL and MSC. -- Charles |
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I Never Thought I'd Say This, But...
On 3/27/2011 12:12 PM, nfw wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:37:58 -0500, Janet wrote: On 3/27/2011 11:18 AM, Thumper wrote: On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:15:34 -0500, Janet Wilder wrote: On 3/26/2011 6:25 PM, Ray Goldenberg wrote: In raweb.com, Janet wrote: If you had 6th grade reading comprehension skills, you'd have read that other lines provide it for free. Further, they are not trying to use a medical situation as a profit source. Carnival is by charging $5 for an item that costs them 50 cents. That's the business Carnival is in. Why should this item be any different? Next thing you know they'll be charging extra for handicap-accessible cabins and adding a surcharge for plugging in mobility scooters to recharge their batteries.g Hey, a buck's a buck to Carnival. I shudder to think of what would happen if someone had a medical emergency on a Carnival ship. Would they be trying to reap a profit from that, too? I think I'll just keep my trade with the companies who care about the health of their guests. If there are cruise lines and hotels who provide this service at no charge, why would I ever want to sail with a cruise line who gouges people who have a medical problem. I don't care who sails with them. I won't. Carnival's prices are significantly lower than other lines. I don't see why you would expect them to furnish you with distilled water. That is definitely not an excuse. You are really reaching for a justification. I've had a jug of distilled water supplied by a Holiday Inn as an accommodation. Lets look at it this way Janet, you pay more to cruise on the cruise line of your choice, so of course they don't mind giving you a gallon of distilled water free. Now Carnival is a lower priced cruise line, if you wanted to pay them what you pay RC then I doubt very much you'd pay for your water. I think you're arguing for the sake of arguing and nothing more. Why does everyone seem to miss the point that the fifty-cent bottle of water is being charged at $5 by Carnival. I understand your theory that Carnival charges lower fares so they shouldn't give away the water, but price gouging for a medical necessity? That's like saying you should pay twice the price for your medications at one drug store because they are in a "better" neighborhood. Do you think that is right? Definition of Arguing: Give reasons or cite evidence in support of an idea, action, or theory, typically with the aim of persuading others to share one's view. Yes it certainly sounds like you. -- Janet Wilder Way-the-heck-south Texas Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does. |
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