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What's ABH stand for?
I'm an American who has given up on internationalism since Sept '01. Actually, there's some interesting travel to be made domestically. - Oh the shark has, pretty teeth dear And he shows them, a pearly white The line forms, to the right dear |
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What's ABH stand for?
I'm an American who has given up on internationalism since Sept '01. Actually, there's some interesting travel to be made domestically. - Oh the shark has, pretty teeth dear And he shows them, a pearly white The line forms, to the right dear |
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My Father has just returned from Minneapolis and was NOT finger printed - so
I would not take this as a forgone absolute and I really dont think you arrest is going to show up on any US immigration computer record. The only time this is likely to arise is if you get into any beef with the US authorities whilst there. -- Best Regards John Verbeeten Tracker Software Products PDF-XChange & SDK, Image-XChange SDK, PDF-Tools & SDK, TIFF-XChange & SDK, DocuTrack. Email : www.docu-track.com User Updates (serial # required) http://www.docu-track.com/download.php Trials: http://www.docu-track.com/index.php?page=28 Pricing: http://www.docu-track.com/index.php?page=30 "sniper" wrote in message ... In 1997, during an argument with my then boyfriend I was arrested for ABH. When this went to court, the case was dismissed due to extenuating circumstances (I was defending ,myself). Therefore I have no criminal record. I haven't even had a parking offence However, I have to go to the US on company business and it appears I am no longer able to travel under the Visa Waiver Scheme because I have been arrested, regardless of the outcome of the case. This now means I am going to have to admit this to my employers (and it also means I am going to have to tell them I cannot do the business trip since there is no way of getting a visa in the time scale). I also now have to explain the whole sorry mess to my husband. I have no paperwork relating to the case, - I can't even remember what court it was in- never thinking I'd need it so now I have to apparently contact New Scotland yard to try to find some record. Exactly how, or how long this will take, I have yet to find out Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. -- "Support bacteria, they're the only culture some people have |
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My Father has just returned from Minneapolis and was NOT finger printed - so
I would not take this as a forgone absolute and I really dont think you arrest is going to show up on any US immigration computer record. The only time this is likely to arise is if you get into any beef with the US authorities whilst there. -- Best Regards John Verbeeten Tracker Software Products PDF-XChange & SDK, Image-XChange SDK, PDF-Tools & SDK, TIFF-XChange & SDK, DocuTrack. Email : www.docu-track.com User Updates (serial # required) http://www.docu-track.com/download.php Trials: http://www.docu-track.com/index.php?page=28 Pricing: http://www.docu-track.com/index.php?page=30 "sniper" wrote in message ... In 1997, during an argument with my then boyfriend I was arrested for ABH. When this went to court, the case was dismissed due to extenuating circumstances (I was defending ,myself). Therefore I have no criminal record. I haven't even had a parking offence However, I have to go to the US on company business and it appears I am no longer able to travel under the Visa Waiver Scheme because I have been arrested, regardless of the outcome of the case. This now means I am going to have to admit this to my employers (and it also means I am going to have to tell them I cannot do the business trip since there is no way of getting a visa in the time scale). I also now have to explain the whole sorry mess to my husband. I have no paperwork relating to the case, - I can't even remember what court it was in- never thinking I'd need it so now I have to apparently contact New Scotland yard to try to find some record. Exactly how, or how long this will take, I have yet to find out Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. -- "Support bacteria, they're the only culture some people have |
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"Jonathan Bryce" wrote in message ... sniper wrote: Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. The US doesn't have a human rights act. It has one of the worst human rights records of any country in the world today. rofl. Only in the world of fantasy relativism. The US doesnt need a human rights act, it has a near perfect system of limited government. Easily the most successful in the history of mankind. Gaz |
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"Jonathan Bryce" wrote in message ... sniper wrote: Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. The US doesn't have a human rights act. It has one of the worst human rights records of any country in the world today. rofl. Only in the world of fantasy relativism. The US doesnt need a human rights act, it has a near perfect system of limited government. Easily the most successful in the history of mankind. Gaz |
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"Jonathan Bryce" wrote in message ... sniper wrote: Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. The US doesn't have a human rights act. It has one of the worst human rights records of any country in the world today. rofl. Only in the world of fantasy relativism. The US doesnt need a human rights act, it has a near perfect system of limited government. Easily the most successful in the history of mankind. Gaz |
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I think an 'unlawful arrest' would be under COLOR of law whereas an
abduction wouldn't. -- Falky San Diego, Calif. ---------------- Disclaimer: This has been the opinion of a law student, not a lawyer. Author advises each reader to get the opinion of a legal professional. This post is not intended to be legal advice. "Mike" wrote in message ... In message , Harry The Horse writes kittykat wrote: if You had a police caution held over for 1 year , not taken to court, would the same rules apply You must declare it even if the arrest resulted in no further action being taken. For example, the the arrest were unlawful or a case of mistaken identity. What's the difference between an "unlawful arrest" and an "abduction". Do kidnap victims have to declare that they've been (unlawfully) "arrested"? -- Mike |
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I think an 'unlawful arrest' would be under COLOR of law whereas an
abduction wouldn't. -- Falky San Diego, Calif. ---------------- Disclaimer: This has been the opinion of a law student, not a lawyer. Author advises each reader to get the opinion of a legal professional. This post is not intended to be legal advice. "Mike" wrote in message ... In message , Harry The Horse writes kittykat wrote: if You had a police caution held over for 1 year , not taken to court, would the same rules apply You must declare it even if the arrest resulted in no further action being taken. For example, the the arrest were unlawful or a case of mistaken identity. What's the difference between an "unlawful arrest" and an "abduction". Do kidnap victims have to declare that they've been (unlawfully) "arrested"? -- Mike |
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"Michael Ross" wrote in message news:1095610899.VhXQyoBt8huKLKTe6DfmtA@teranews... On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 07:25:51 +0100, "Peter Crosland" wrote: Surely this is an offence against Civil Liberties? If I'd been found guilty then maybe I could have understood it but in these circumstance this seems totally unfair, especially as I've previously travelled to the US many times without problems. That is the US requirement and always has been. AFAIK you have always had to declare this so you may have problems explaining to the US Imigration service why you did not do so before. You need to obtain a copy of your file on the Police National Computer. You can get an application form at any police station. Suggest the OP reads the thread we had around a month ago: http://tinyurl.com/4qv2d Executive summary: The US Embassy London website clearly states you need a visa if you have ever been arrested OR if you have a criminal record. The State Dept. website clearly states you only need a visa if you have a criminal record. I'd believe the State Dept. At worst, it's a perfectly good excuse. The fingerprinting is a red herring; it's all about catching people who are on the run *in the USA*, and making sure they do a better job of keeping track of people entering the country than they did pre-9/11. They don't run your prints past Scotland Yard! Excuse me for butting in here, but I would be grateful for some clarification about what I am reading here. Are you saying that no-one with any sort of criminal record will be allowed entry to the US? |
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