Visa reqts for US

Mike wrote:

What's ABH stand for?

Actual Bodily Harm. Would translate to Assault and Battery.

I'm an American who has given up on internationalism since Sept '01.
Actually, there's some interesting travel to be made domestically.

'Internationalism'? (Do us a favour, see if you can convince
your Administration to follow suit).

Good point about the domestic travel. It's also better for the
environment if it uses less energy in transport and has less
impact on natural sites.

--
Ken Tough

"Harry The Horse" wrote in message
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Gaz wrote:

Name a better system of rational, limited and democratic government.

Ask a black in Mississippi.

He won the lottery,in terms of places to be born and live. The only thing
the US does, is fail to live up to its high ideals. It still has a better
record then most other nations.

Gaz

"Harry The Horse" wrote in message
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Gaz wrote:

Name a better system of rational, limited and democratic government.

Ask a black in Mississippi.

He won the lottery,in terms of places to be born and live. The only thing
the US does, is fail to live up to its high ideals. It still has a better
record then most other nations.

Gaz

"Harry The Horse" wrote in message
...
Gaz wrote:

Name a better system of rational, limited and democratic government.

Ask a black in Mississippi.

He won the lottery,in terms of places to be born and live. The only thing
the US does, is fail to live up to its high ideals. It still has a better
record then most other nations.

Gaz

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:08:14 -0400, Michael Ross
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:37:13 +0100, "Farmer Giles"
wrote:

Excuse me for butting in here, but I would be grateful for some
clarification about what I am reading here. Are you saying that no-one with
any sort of criminal record will be allowed entry to the US?

No, but if you have a criminal record - or even have ever been
arrested, depending on which bit of US gov. you believe! - you are not
eligible to travel to the US on the 'visa waiver' program, you have to
apply for a visa well in advance of your travel date.

And suffer a humiliating interview with an American bureaucrat nobody.

(visa waiver allows visitors in to USA for short stays without a visa
- you just fill in a form on the plane - if visitor is from one of a
list of 'good guys' countries, including the UK)

And lie until the US get better access to British criminal records
than British officials do.

(Well the only way to find out what access they *do* have is for
people with records to try.)

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 19:08:14 -0400, Michael Ross
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:37:13 +0100, "Farmer Giles"
wrote:

Excuse me for butting in here, but I would be grateful for some
clarification about what I am reading here. Are you saying that no-one with
any sort of criminal record will be allowed entry to the US?

No, but if you have a criminal record - or even have ever been
arrested, depending on which bit of US gov. you believe! - you are not
eligible to travel to the US on the 'visa waiver' program, you have to
apply for a visa well in advance of your travel date.

And suffer a humiliating interview with an American bureaucrat nobody.

(visa waiver allows visitors in to USA for short stays without a visa
- you just fill in a form on the plane - if visitor is from one of a
list of 'good guys' countries, including the UK)

And lie until the US get better access to British criminal records
than British officials do.

(Well the only way to find out what access they *do* have is for
people with records to try.)

"Harry The Horse" wrote in message
...

You must declare it even if the arrest resulted in no further action being
taken. For example, the the arrest were unlawful or a case of mistaken
identity. It stinks, I know, but remember this is from the country that
practises unlimited detention without trial and without evidence.

I wonder if you would have to declare a citizens arrest? ;-)

"Harry The Horse" wrote in message
...

You must declare it even if the arrest resulted in no further action being
taken. For example, the the arrest were unlawful or a case of mistaken
identity. It stinks, I know, but remember this is from the country that
practises unlimited detention without trial and without evidence.

I wonder if you would have to declare a citizens arrest? ;-)

"Gaz" wrote in message
...

"Harry The Horse" wrote in message
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Gaz wrote:

Name a better system of rational, limited and democratic government.

Ask a black in Mississippi.

He won the lottery,in terms of places to be born and live.

So didn't bother to ask. That figures.

The only thing
the US does, is fail to live up to its high ideals. It still has a better
record then most other nations.

So why don't you move there?

"Harry The Horse" wrote in message
news
"Gaz" wrote in message
...

"Harry The Horse" wrote in message
...
Gaz wrote:

Name a better system of rational, limited and democratic government.

Ask a black in Mississippi.

He won the lottery,in terms of places to be born and live.

So didn't bother to ask. That figures.

The only thing
the US does, is fail to live up to its high ideals. It still has a better
record then most other nations.

So why don't you move there?

I have lived, studied and got married there, but i choose to live here.

Gaz