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Examples of that 'panacea" of Euro style Socialized medicine in theUK and Fwance
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That* 'panacea' of socialized medicine coming to USofA? "...A study published today shows that patients with suspected cancer in parts of England are 60 times more likely to be sent for scans than those living elsewhere...." (From UK news) Socialized medicine ="Universal"????Healthcare http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...tients-60-time... France Partner Institute: Institut de Recherche et Documentation en Economie de la Santé (IRDES), Paris "Abstract In order to improve the access to health care and reduce existing geographical variations in the distribution of health professionals a national demographic plan was introduced in January 2006. The plan develops incentives for doctors to practice in medically deprived areas.... Purpose of health policy or idea ....In France, the number of doctors is currently quite high compared with other countries (in all 203 000 of which 103 000 specialists and 100 000 GPs; France had 3.4 practising physicians per 1000 population in 2004, above the OECD average of 3). However, the geographical distribution of doctors between regions is quite uneven (more than twofold difference between north and south) and the expected wave of retirement of doctors' in the near future will make this situation worse....." The problem is apparently all the doctors want to be in gay Pareee We were unable to post your message Your Internet address has been restricted from the system .. If you believe this is an error, please contact Google Support. |
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Examples of that 'panacea" of Euro style Socialized medicine inthe UK and Fwance
The proof is always in the pudding. 36 Marxist countries, some so
poor they don't have a single carrier group, are ahead of looneytarian U.S. Life expectancy at birth (years)[4] Rank state/territory Overall Male Female 1 Japan 82.7 79.0 86.1 2 Hong Kong 82.2 79.4 85.1 3 Israel 82.0 80.0 84.0 4 Italy 82.0 79.4 84.5 5 Iceland 81.8 80.2 83.3 6 Australia 81.2 78.9 83.6 7 Singapore 81.0 79.0 83.0 8 Spain 80.9 77.7 84.2 9 Sweden 80.9 78.7 83.0 10 Macau 80.7 78.5 82.8 11 France (metropolitan) 80.7 77.1 84.1 12 Canada 80.7 78.3 82.9 13 New Zealand 80.2 78.2 82.2 14 Norway 80.2 77.8 82.5 15 United Kingdom 80.1 78.1 82.1 16 Austria 79.8 76.9 82.6 17 Netherlands 79.8 77.5 81.9 18 Martinique ( France) 79.5 76.5 82.3 19 Greece 79.5 77.1 81.9 20 Belgium 79.4 76.5 82.3 21 Malta 79.4 77.3 81.3 22 Germany 79.4 76.5 82.1 23 U.S. Virgin Islands ( US) 79.4 75.5 83.3 24 Finland 79.3 76.1 82.4 25 Guadeloupe ( France) 79.2 76.0 82.2 26 Channel Islands ( Jersey and Guernsey) ( UK) 79.0 76.6 81.5 27 Cyprus 79.0 76.5 81.6 28 Ireland 78.9 76.5 81.3 29 Costa Rica 78.8 76.5 81.2 30 Puerto Rico ( US) 78.7 74.7 82.7 31 Luxembourg 78.7 75.7 81.6 32 United Arab Emirates 78.7 77.2 81.5 33 South Korea 78.6 75.0 82.2 34 Chile 78.6 75.5 81.5 35 Denmark 78.3 76.0 80.6 36 Cuba 78.3 76.2 80.4 37 United States 78.2 75.6 80.8 38 Portugal 78.1 75.0 81.2 39 Slovenia 77.9 74.1 81.5 40 Kuwait 77.6 76.0 79.9 42 Barbados 77.3 74.4 79.8 43 Brunei 77.1 75.0 79.7 44 Czech Republic 76.5 73.4 79.5 45 Réunion ( France) 76.4 72.3 80.5 46 Albania 76.4 73.4 79.7 47 Uruguay 76.4 72.8 79.9 48 Mexico 76.2 73.7 78.6 49 Belize 76.1 73.3 79.2 50 New Caledonia ( France) 76.1 72.8 79.7 51 French Guiana ( France) 75.9 72.5 79.9 52 Croatia 75.7 72.3 79.2 53 Oman 75.6 74.2 77.5 54 Bahrain 75.6 74.3 77.5 55 Qatar 75.6 75.2 76.4 56 Poland 75.6 71.3 79.8 57 Panama 75.5 73.0 78.2 58 Guam ( US) 75.5 73.3 77.9 59 Argentina 75.3 71.6 79.1 60 Netherlands Antilles ( Netherlands) 75.1 71.3 78.8 61 Ecuador 75.0 72.1 78.0 62 Bosnia and Herzegovina 74.9 72.2 77.4 63 People's Republic of China (mainland) 74.8[5] 72.4 77.4 64 Slovakia 74.7 70.7 78.5 65 Montenegro 74.5 72.4 76.8 66 Vietnam 74.2 72.3 76.2 67 Malaysia 74.2 72.0 76.7 68 Aruba ( Netherlands) 74.2 71.3 77.1 69 Macedonia 74.2 71.8 76.6 70 Syria 74.1 72.3 76.1 71 French Polynesia ( France) 74.1 71.7 76.8 72 Serbia 74.0 71.7 76.3 73 Libya 74.0 71.7 76.9 74 Tunisia 73.9 71.9 76.0 75 Venezuela 73.7 70.9 76.8 76 Saint Lucia 73.7 71.8 75.6 77 Bahamas 73.5 70.6 76.3 78 Palestinian territories 73.4 71.8 75.0 79 Hungary 73.3 69.2 77.4 80 Tonga 73.3 72.3 74.3 81 Bulgaria 73.0 69.5 76.7 82 Lithuania 73.0 67.5 78.3 83 Nicaragua 72.9 69.9 76.0 84 Colombia 72.9 69.2 76.6 85 Mauritius 72.8 69.5 76.2 86 Saudi Arabia 72.8[6] 70.9 75.3 87 Latvia 72.7 67.3 77.7 88 Jamaica 72.6 70.0 75.2 89 Jordan 72.5 70.8 74.5 90 Romania 72.5 69.0 76.1 91 Sri Lanka 72.4 68.8 76.2 92 Brazil 72.4 68.8 76.1 93 Algeria 72.3 70.9 73.7 94 Dominican Republic 72.2 69.3 75.5 95 Lebanon 72.0 69.9 74.2 96 Armenia 72.0 68.4 75.1 97 El Salvador 71.9 68.8 74.9 98 Turkey 71.8 69.4 74.3 99 Paraguay 71.8 69.7 73.9 100 Philippines 71.7 69.5 73.9 101 Cape Verde 71.7 68.3 74.5 102 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 71.6 69.5 73.8 103 Samoa 71.5 68.5 74.8 104 Peru 71.4 68.9 74.0 105 Estonia 71.4 65.9 76.8 106 Egypt 71.3 69.1 73.6 107 Morocco 71.2 69.0 73.4 108 Georgia 71.0 67.1 74.8 109 Iran 71.0 69.4 72.6 110 Indonesia 70.7 68.7 72.7 111 Thailand 70.6 66.5 75.0 112 Russia 70.3 64.3 76.4 113 Guatemala 70.3 66.7 73.8 114 Suriname 70.2 67.0 73.6 115 Honduras 70.2 66.9 73.7 116 Vanuatu 70.0 68.3 72.1 117 Trinidad and Tobago 69.8 67.8 71.8 118 Belarus 69.0 63.1 75.2 119 Moldova 68.9 65.1 72.5 120 Fiji 68.8 66.6 71.1 121 Grenada 68.7 67.0 70.3 122 Federated States of Micronesia 68.5 67.7 69.3 123 Maldives 68.5 67.6 69.5 124 Ukraine 67.9 62.1 73.8 125 Azerbaijan 67.5 63.8 71.2 126 North Korea 67.3 65.1 69.3 127 Uzbekistan 67.2 64.0 70.4 - World Avg. 67.2 65.0 69.5 128 Kazakhstan 67.0 61.6 72.4 129 Guyana 66.8 64.2 69.9 130 Mongolia 66.8 63.9 69.9 131 Tajikistan 66.7 64.1 69.4 132 Western Sahara 65.9 64.3 68.1 133 Kyrgyzstan 65.9 62.0 69.9 134 Bhutan 65.6 64.0 67.5 135 Bolivia 65.6 63.4 67.7 136 São Tomé and Príncipe 65.5 63.6 67.4 137 Pakistan 65.5 65.2 65.8 138 Comoros 65.2 63.0 67.4 139 India 64.7 63.2 66.4 140 Laos 64.4 63.0 65.8 141 Mauritania 64.2 62.4 66.0 142 Bangladesh 64.1 63.2 65.0 143 Nepal 63.8 63.2 64.2 144 Solomon Islands 63.6 62.7 64.5 145 Turkmenistan 63.2 59.0 67.5 146 Senegal 63.1 61.0 65.1 147 Yemen 62.7 61.1 64.3 148 Myanmar 62.1 59.0 65.3 149 Haiti 60.9 59.1 62.8 150 East Timor (10% below world average) 60.8 60.0 61.7 151 Ghana 60.0 59.6 60.5 152 Cambodia 59.7 57.3 61.9 153 Iraq 59.5 57.8 61.5 154 Gambia 59.4 58.6 60.3 155 Madagascar 59.4 57.7 61.3 156 Sudan 58.6 57.1 60.1 157 Togo 58.4 56.7 60.1 158 Eritrea 58.0 55.6 60.3 159 Papua New Guinea 57.2 54.6 60.4 160 Niger 56.9 57.8 56.0 161 Gabon 56.7 56.4 57.1 162 Benin 56.7 55.6 57.8 163 Guinea 56.0 54.4 57.6 164 Republic of the Congo 55.3 54.0 56.6 165 Djibouti 54.8 53.6 56.0 166 Mali 54.5 52.1 56.6 167 Kenya (20% below world average) 54.1 53.0 55.2 168 Ethiopia 52.9 51.7 54.3 169 Namibia 52.9 52.5 53.1 170 Tanzania 52.5 51.4 53.6 171 Burkina Faso 52.3 50.7 53.8 172 Equatorial Guinea 51.6 50.4 52.8 173 Uganda 51.5 50.8 52.2 174 Botswana 50.7 50.5 50.7 175 Chad 50.6 49.3 52.0 176 Cameroon 50.4 50.0 50.8 177 Burundi 49.6 48.1 51.0 178 South Africa 49.3 48.8 49.7 179 Côte d'Ivoire 48.3 47.5 49.3 180 Malawi 48.3 48.1 48.4 181 Somalia 48.2 46.9 49.4 182 Nigeria (30% below world average) 46.9 46.4 47.3 183 Democratic Republic of the Congo 46.5 45.2 47.7 184 Guinea-Bissau 46.4 44.9 47.9 185 Rwanda 46.2 44.6 47.8 186 Liberia 45.7 44.8 46.6 187 Central African Republic 44.7 43.3 46.1 188 Afghanistan 43.8 43.9 43.8 189 Zimbabwe 43.5 44.1 42.6 190 Lesotho 42.6 42.9 42.3 191 Sierra Leone 42.6 41.0 44.1 192 Zambia 42.4 42.1 42.5 193 Swaziland (40% below world average) 39.6 39.8 39.4 194 Mozambique 39.2 38.3 39 |
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"PJ O'D" wrote in message ... wrote: Purpose of health policy or idea ...In France, the number of doctors is currently quite high compared with other countries (in all 203 000 of which 103 000 specialists and 100 000 GPs; France had 3.4 practising physicians per 1000 population in 2004, above the OECD average of 3). What a great proof that socialised medicine can offer affordable care for all, in an efficient way. Quite unlike the expensive, inefficient private medicine of the US, with all the poor having no medical coverage. |
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On Dec 3, 4:13*pm, "Reneguerton" wrote:
...In France, the number of doctors is currently quite high compared with other countries (in all 203 000 of which 103 000 specialists and 100 000 GPs; France had 3.4 practising physicians per 1000 population in 2004, above the OECD average of 3). .. What a great proof that socialised medicine can offer affordable care for all, in an efficient way. You snipped this part which is highly inconsistent with your pontification: "...However, the geographical distribution of doctors between regions is quite uneven (more than twofold difference between north and south) and the expected wave of retirement of doctors' in the near future will make this situation worse....." The problem is apparently all the doctors want to be in gay Pareee |
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You're not going to cure what's wrong with the U.S. healthcare system
by bad mouthing other countries. The cost of healthcare in the U.S. is out of control and unsustainable. Even if it really was better than the healthcare systems in other countries, we couldn't afford it. |
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Examples of that 'panacea" of Euro style Socialized medicine in the UK and Fwance
On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 07:40:00 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill wrote:
The proof is always in the pudding. 36 Marxist countries, some so poor they don't have a single carrier group, are ahead of looneytarian U.S. Life expectancy at birth (years)[4] Rank state/territory Overall Male Female 1 Japan 82.7 79.0 86.1 2 Hong Kong 82.2 79.4 85.1 3 Israel 82.0 80.0 84.0 4 Italy 82.0 79.4 84.5 5 Iceland 81.8 80.2 83.3 6 Australia 81.2 78.9 83.6 7 Singapore 81.0 79.0 83.0 8 Spain 80.9 77.7 84.2 9 Sweden 80.9 78.7 83.0 10 Macau 80.7 78.5 82.8 11 France (metropolitan) 80.7 77.1 84.1 12 Canada 80.7 78.3 82.9 13 New Zealand 80.2 78.2 82.2 14 Norway 80.2 77.8 82.5 15 United Kingdom 80.1 78.1 82.1 16 Austria 79.8 76.9 82.6 17 Netherlands 79.8 77.5 81.9 18 Martinique ( France) 79.5 76.5 82.3 19 Greece 79.5 77.1 81.9 20 Belgium 79.4 76.5 82.3 21 Malta 79.4 77.3 81.3 22 Germany 79.4 76.5 82.1 23 U.S. Virgin Islands ( US) 79.4 75.5 83.3 24 Finland 79.3 76.1 82.4 25 Guadeloupe ( France) 79.2 76.0 82.2 26 Channel Islands ( Jersey and Guernsey) ( UK) 79.0 76.6 81.5 27 Cyprus 79.0 76.5 81.6 28 Ireland 78.9 76.5 81.3 29 Costa Rica 78.8 76.5 81.2 30 Puerto Rico ( US) 78.7 74.7 82.7 31 Luxembourg 78.7 75.7 81.6 32 United Arab Emirates 78.7 77.2 81.5 33 South Korea 78.6 75.0 82.2 34 Chile 78.6 75.5 81.5 35 Denmark 78.3 76.0 80.6 36 Cuba 78.3 76.2 80.4 37 United States 78.2 75.6 80.8 38 Portugal 78.1 75.0 81.2 39 Slovenia 77.9 74.1 81.5 40 Kuwait 77.6 76.0 79.9 42 Barbados 77.3 74.4 79.8 43 Brunei 77.1 75.0 79.7 44 Czech Republic 76.5 73.4 79.5 45 Réunion ( France) 76.4 72.3 80.5 46 Albania 76.4 73.4 79.7 47 Uruguay 76.4 72.8 79.9 48 Mexico 76.2 73.7 78.6 49 Belize 76.1 73.3 79.2 50 New Caledonia ( France) 76.1 72.8 79.7 51 French Guiana ( France) 75.9 72.5 79.9 52 Croatia 75.7 72.3 79.2 53 Oman 75.6 74.2 77.5 54 Bahrain 75.6 74.3 77.5 55 Qatar 75.6 75.2 76.4 56 Poland 75.6 71.3 79.8 57 Panama 75.5 73.0 78.2 58 Guam ( US) 75.5 73.3 77.9 59 Argentina 75.3 71.6 79.1 60 Netherlands Antilles ( Netherlands) 75.1 71.3 78.8 61 Ecuador 75.0 72.1 78.0 62 Bosnia and Herzegovina 74.9 72.2 77.4 63 People's Republic of China (mainland) 74.8[5] 72.4 77.4 64 Slovakia 74.7 70.7 78.5 65 Montenegro 74.5 72.4 76.8 66 Vietnam 74.2 72.3 76.2 67 Malaysia 74.2 72.0 76.7 68 Aruba ( Netherlands) 74.2 71.3 77.1 69 Macedonia 74.2 71.8 76.6 70 Syria 74.1 72.3 76.1 71 French Polynesia ( France) 74.1 71.7 76.8 72 Serbia 74.0 71.7 76.3 73 Libya 74.0 71.7 76.9 74 Tunisia 73.9 71.9 76.0 75 Venezuela 73.7 70.9 76.8 76 Saint Lucia 73.7 71.8 75.6 77 Bahamas 73.5 70.6 76.3 78 Palestinian territories 73.4 71.8 75.0 79 Hungary 73.3 69.2 77.4 80 Tonga 73.3 72.3 74.3 81 Bulgaria 73.0 69.5 76.7 82 Lithuania 73.0 67.5 78.3 83 Nicaragua 72.9 69.9 76.0 84 Colombia 72.9 69.2 76.6 85 Mauritius 72.8 69.5 76.2 86 Saudi Arabia 72.8[6] 70.9 75.3 87 Latvia 72.7 67.3 77.7 88 Jamaica 72.6 70.0 75.2 89 Jordan 72.5 70.8 74.5 90 Romania 72.5 69.0 76.1 91 Sri Lanka 72.4 68.8 76.2 92 Brazil 72.4 68.8 76.1 93 Algeria 72.3 70.9 73.7 94 Dominican Republic 72.2 69.3 75.5 95 Lebanon 72.0 69.9 74.2 96 Armenia 72.0 68.4 75.1 97 El Salvador 71.9 68.8 74.9 98 Turkey 71.8 69.4 74.3 99 Paraguay 71.8 69.7 73.9 100 Philippines 71.7 69.5 73.9 101 Cape Verde 71.7 68.3 74.5 102 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 71.6 69.5 73.8 103 Samoa 71.5 68.5 74.8 104 Peru 71.4 68.9 74.0 105 Estonia 71.4 65.9 76.8 106 Egypt 71.3 69.1 73.6 107 Morocco 71.2 69.0 73.4 108 Georgia 71.0 67.1 74.8 109 Iran 71.0 69.4 72.6 110 Indonesia 70.7 68.7 72.7 111 Thailand 70.6 66.5 75.0 112 Russia 70.3 64.3 76.4 113 Guatemala 70.3 66.7 73.8 114 Suriname 70.2 67.0 73.6 115 Honduras 70.2 66.9 73.7 116 Vanuatu 70.0 68.3 72.1 117 Trinidad and Tobago 69.8 67.8 71.8 118 Belarus 69.0 63.1 75.2 119 Moldova 68.9 65.1 72.5 120 Fiji 68.8 66.6 71.1 121 Grenada 68.7 67.0 70.3 122 Federated States of Micronesia 68.5 67.7 69.3 123 Maldives 68.5 67.6 69.5 124 Ukraine 67.9 62.1 73.8 125 Azerbaijan 67.5 63.8 71.2 126 North Korea 67.3 65.1 69.3 127 Uzbekistan 67.2 64.0 70.4 - World Avg. 67.2 65.0 69.5 128 Kazakhstan 67.0 61.6 72.4 129 Guyana 66.8 64.2 69.9 130 Mongolia 66.8 63.9 69.9 131 Tajikistan 66.7 64.1 69.4 132 Western Sahara 65.9 64.3 68.1 133 Kyrgyzstan 65.9 62.0 69.9 134 Bhutan 65.6 64.0 67.5 135 Bolivia 65.6 63.4 67.7 136 São Tomé and Príncipe 65.5 63.6 67.4 137 Pakistan 65.5 65.2 65.8 138 Comoros 65.2 63.0 67.4 139 India 64.7 63.2 66.4 140 Laos 64.4 63.0 65.8 141 Mauritania 64.2 62.4 66.0 142 Bangladesh 64.1 63.2 65.0 143 Nepal 63.8 63.2 64.2 144 Solomon Islands 63.6 62.7 64.5 145 Turkmenistan 63.2 59.0 67.5 146 Senegal 63.1 61.0 65.1 147 Yemen 62.7 61.1 64.3 148 Myanmar 62.1 59.0 65.3 149 Haiti 60.9 59.1 62.8 150 East Timor (10% below world average) 60.8 60.0 61.7 151 Ghana 60.0 59.6 60.5 152 Cambodia 59.7 57.3 61.9 153 Iraq 59.5 57.8 61.5 154 Gambia 59.4 58.6 60.3 155 Madagascar 59.4 57.7 61.3 156 Sudan 58.6 57.1 60.1 157 Togo 58.4 56.7 60.1 158 Eritrea 58.0 55.6 60.3 159 Papua New Guinea 57.2 54.6 60.4 160 Niger 56.9 57.8 56.0 161 Gabon 56.7 56.4 57.1 162 Benin 56.7 55.6 57.8 163 Guinea 56.0 54.4 57.6 164 Republic of the Congo 55.3 54.0 56.6 165 Djibouti 54.8 53.6 56.0 166 Mali 54.5 52.1 56.6 167 Kenya (20% below world average) 54.1 53.0 55.2 168 Ethiopia 52.9 51.7 54.3 169 Namibia 52.9 52.5 53.1 170 Tanzania 52.5 51.4 53.6 171 Burkina Faso 52.3 50.7 53.8 172 Equatorial Guinea 51.6 50.4 52.8 173 Uganda 51.5 50.8 52.2 174 Botswana 50.7 50.5 50.7 175 Chad 50.6 49.3 52.0 176 Cameroon 50.4 50.0 50.8 177 Burundi 49.6 48.1 51.0 178 South Africa 49.3 48.8 49.7 179 Côte d'Ivoire 48.3 47.5 49.3 180 Malawi 48.3 48.1 48.4 181 Somalia 48.2 46.9 49.4 182 Nigeria (30% below world average) 46.9 46.4 47.3 183 Democratic Republic of the Congo 46.5 45.2 47.7 184 Guinea-Bissau 46.4 44.9 47.9 185 Rwanda 46.2 44.6 47.8 186 Liberia 45.7 44.8 46.6 187 Central African Republic 44.7 43.3 46.1 188 Afghanistan 43.8 43.9 43.8 189 Zimbabwe 43.5 44.1 42.6 190 Lesotho 42.6 42.9 42.3 191 Sierra Leone 42.6 41.0 44.1 192 Zambia 42.4 42.1 42.5 193 Swaziland (40% below world average) 39.6 39.8 39.4 194 Mozambique 39.2 38.3 39 Your problem is you believe universal medical care in the U.S. will solve that problem, when the real problem is "people." People who just ignore preventive medicine. And a medical insurance will not change them. The money should go to education, among other things that have nothing to do with having an insurance policy in your pocket that only carries dust. Planet Visitor II |
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On Dec 3, 5:13*pm, "simon calder"
wrote: ...In France, the number of doctors is currently quite high compared with other countries (in all 203 000 of which 103 000 specialists and 100 000 GPs; France had 3.4 practising physicians per 1000 population in 2004, above the OECD average of 3). ... What a great proof that socialised medicine can offer affordable care for all, in an efficient way. .. You snipped this part which is highly inconsistent with your pontification: .. "...However, the geographical distribution of doctors between regions is quite uneven (more than twofold difference between north and south) and the expected wave of retirement of doctors' in the near future will make this situation worse....." The problem is apparently all the doctors want to be in gay Pareee .. well, *we don't know that. *It's an assumption. *Course might equally be that young people just don't want to become doctors either.... who knows. Whatever, it's f*ck all to do with it being state funded..... It has plenty to do with your worship of unworkakable state funded medical schemes. if I was a young doctor and my income was based on a fixed mandate by a thing called governement regardless of where I chose to live, I would chose Paris over a place like Lille in Fwance. I/ve spent time in both. Both are really stinky places but Lille is worse. I would chose Paris until my lungs became contaminated from the unbelievable stench in the air in my old ager The result is obvious Paris has a glut of doctors and superb care may be available to Parisans but what about Lille? So much for that Fwench equalite' . |
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Examples of that 'panacea" of Euro style Socialized medicinein the UK and Fwance
On 12/3/2012 5:17 PM, mg wrote:
You're not going to cure what's wrong with the U.S. healthcare system by bad mouthing other countries. It never hurts to point out the mistakes you see, so you can avoid them. -- *Welcome to Socialism* -Kum bay ya- |
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