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Old August 9th, 2011, 10:07 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
David Horne, _the_ chancellor[_2_]
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Martin wrote:

On Mon, 8 Aug 2011 20:06:49 -0500, Dan Stephenson
wrote:

On 2011-08-08 19:23:58 -0500, Ken Blake said:

I can't speak about all of Europe, but I flew out of Athens a couple
of months ago. I didn't go through a body scanner.


I should phone back. Perhaps they thought I mean the metal detector.

Did you see body scanners there, and if so, could you tell how they
selected people to use them?


Are you trying to hide something?




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Old August 9th, 2011, 10:14 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
Frank Hucklenbroich
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Am Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:56:10 -0500 schrieb Dan Stephenson:

My plans were to visit Europe again in October, but it has come to my
attention that the use of those body scanners has become common since
the attempted bombing of that flight to Detroit last Christmas 2009.
My last flight was prior to that.

So I called the Athens airport and spoke to their security people who
said that they had the scanners and their use was required, and
furthermore that this was to be found in the other airports in Europe.

This sounds incredible but it is plausible. Can anyone confirm this at
your local big airport?


As for my local airport (Cologne), I haven't seen any of those scanners
yet, and my last flight from there was in April this year.

I did read reports recently, that these scanners don't work very good
anywya (e.g., they dont fing the things they should), so authorities will
probably not use them.

Regards,

Frank
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Old August 9th, 2011, 01:05 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
S Viemeister[_2_]
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On 8/8/2011 9:05 PM, Dan Stephenson wrote:
On 2011-08-08 17:11:11 -0500, S Viemeister said:

On 8/8/2011 5:56 PM, Dan Stephenson wrote:
My plans were to visit Europe again in October, but it has come to my
attention that the use of those body scanners has become common since
the attempted bombing of that flight to Detroit last Christmas 2009. My
last flight was prior to that.

So I called the Athens airport and spoke to their security people who
said that they had the scanners and their use was required, and
furthermore that this was to be found in the other airports in Europe.

This sounds incredible but it is plausible. Can anyone confirm this at
your local big airport? My googling only turned up EU regular that
"permitted" the scanners and a lot of talk of health issues. But that is
all.

I know they have those scanners at Heathrow, but I haven't yet been
subjected to them. My last Heathrow trip was just a few days ago.


Right. Could you tell how they selected who should get scanned? I've
read that if you refuse the scan, there is no pat-down option.

Actually, I didn't notice anyone being selected for those scans.
I was patted down, but not too unpleasantly, because the metal detector
beeped when I went through. It hadn't beeped earlier in the day at
Edinburgh - either the Heathrow sensors are extremely sensitive (I was
wearing rimless glasses with very thin metal temples, a small watch,
small silver earrings and a wedding band - no other metal), or they
decided to give the young woman some practice with pat-downs on someone
who wasn't likely to be any problem.
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Old August 9th, 2011, 02:52 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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"Dan Stephenson" wrote in message
news:2011080816561034299-stephedanospam@maccom...
My plans were to visit Europe again in October, but it has come to my
attention that the use of those body scanners has become common since the
attempted bombing of that flight to Detroit last Christmas 2009. My last
flight was prior to that.

So I called the Athens airport and spoke to their security people who said
that they had the scanners and their use was required, and furthermore
that this was to be found in the other airports in Europe.

This sounds incredible but it is plausible. Can anyone confirm this at
your local big airport? My googling only turned up EU regular that
"permitted" the scanners and a lot of talk of health issues. But that is
all.


I had to be scanned at Los Angeles Airport in May before being allowed into
the International Terminal departure area. It wasn't voluntary. I think
that the use of full body scanners is more widespread in the USA than in
Europe.

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JohnT

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Old August 9th, 2011, 03:40 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Ken Blake[_2_]
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2011 20:06:49 -0500, Dan Stephenson
wrote:

On 2011-08-08 19:23:58 -0500, Ken Blake said:

I can't speak about all of Europe, but I flew out of Athens a couple
of months ago. I didn't go through a body scanner.


I should phone back. Perhaps they thought I mean the metal detector.

Did you see body scanners there, and if so, could you tell how they
selected people to use them?



I don't remember seeing any body scanners, but that doesn't mean they
weren't there.

--
Ken Blake
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Old August 9th, 2011, 03:58 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Erilar
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Dan Stephenson wrote:
On 2011-08-08 19:23:58 -0500, Ken Blake said:

I can't speak about all of Europe, but I flew out of Athens a couple
of months ago. I didn't go through a body scanner.


I should phone back. Perhaps they thought I mean the metal detector.

Did you see body scanners there, and if so, could you tell how they
selected people to use them?


..?? I really can't see why anyone would prefer an intrusive body pat-down
to an innocuous body scanner on an occasional trip.

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Old August 9th, 2011, 04:55 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Johannes Kleese
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Erilar wrote:

.?? I really can't see why anyone would prefer an intrusive body pat-down
to an innocuous body scanner on an occasional trip.


A body pat-down is usually only done if the metal scanners indicate you
have anything metallic on you.

Some body scanners, however, produce an image that resembles you being
naked, or at least might reveal other things quite personal (elderly
person having to wear diapers, somebody with an ostomy?).
If body scanners are introduced, everbody will have to go through them.

So the choice is rather no pat-down vs. being seen naked. It's ok if you
don't mind being naked, but quite a few do.
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Old August 9th, 2011, 07:15 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Here come the 2 gazgas

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" a écrit dans le message de groupe de
discussion : ...

Martin wrote:

On Mon, 8 Aug 2011 20:06:49 -0500, Dan Stephenson
wrote:

On 2011-08-08 19:23:58 -0500, Ken Blake said:

I can't speak about all of Europe, but I flew out of Athens a couple
of months ago. I didn't go through a body scanner.


I should phone back. Perhaps they thought I mean the metal detector.

Did you see body scanners there, and if so, could you tell how they
selected people to use them?


Are you trying to hide something?




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www.davidhorne.net (email address on website)
"[Do you think the world learned anything from the first
world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)

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Old August 9th, 2011, 07:17 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Runge 131
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Horne went through one of them and the device exploded, so no problem there
If you don't like showing yourself get some training at Springbreak.

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" a écrit dans le message de groupe de
discussion : ...

Dan Stephenson wrote:

My plans were to visit Europe again in October, but it has come to my
attention that the use of those body scanners has become common since
the attempted bombing of that flight to Detroit last Christmas 2009.
My last flight was prior to that.

So I called the Athens airport and spoke to their security people who
said that they had the scanners and their use was required, and
furthermore that this was to be found in the other airports in Europe.

This sounds incredible but it is plausible.


They are being rolled out in European airports just as they are at US
aiports. It will be quite a while before they are everywhere, if ever.

Can anyone confirm this at
your local big airport?


They are used at Manchester, my local. I forget if every terminal uses
them.

My googling only turned up EU regular that
"permitted" the scanners and a lot of talk of health issues. But that
is all.


There is nothing to worry about IMO.

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(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
www.davidhorne.net (email address on website)
"[Do you think the world learned anything from the first
world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)

 




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