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Old May 20th, 2004, 02:44 AM
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
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S Viemeister wrote:

Madonna wrote:

Miguel Cruz wrote:

Madonna wrote:
Since when do 800 numbers work in Turkey?

Why wouldn't it? They work pretty much everywhere else in Europe.
Just dial 001 first.


"800 numbers can only be used in the United States and Canada"
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20020513e.asp


In most cases, they CAN be used outside North America - but you will be
charged at standard rates. It won't be a free call.


That's probably why my Amex travel medical policy tells its
policy-holders to call collect from overseas, although they have an 800
number for the U.S. (However, with the urgent problem the OP
encountered, I'm sure whether or not he'd have to pay for the call was
not uppermost in his mind!)
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Old May 20th, 2004, 05:16 AM
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
Interesting. I can't call US-only 1-800 numbers from Canada, for free
or otherwise, there's just no way to do it that I know of. A bit of a
PITA if they don't list their local number.


Canada is a special case. Because 800-number subscribers can choose where in
the NANPA (country code 1) to accept and fund calls from, if they opt not to
pay for calls from Canada then you'll have to dial them a different way
(possibly substituting 880 for 800?).

miguel
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Old May 21st, 2004, 06:19 PM
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Miguel Cruz wrote in message ...
wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote:
Madonna wrote:
Tom Bellhouse wrote:
My card was blocked in Turkey. I was able to call
the 800 number on the back of the card, identify
myself, explain that it was "really me" in Turkey,
and get the block lifted. Much easier to d it
before leaving home, tho.

Since when do 800 numbers work in Turkey?

Why wouldn't it? They work pretty much everywhere else in Europe.
Just dial 001 first.


Turkey is an Asian country.


Like Russia?


Unlike Russia. Demographically Russia is mostly European. Actually
Russia "proper" is entirely European. Later lots of foreign
territories have annexed to Russia: vast regions of Central Asia (now
mostly - at least formally - independent); Siberia (what is that
Europe, Asia or something else, if everything east from the Ural
mountains is considered "Asian" then the identification is easy); vast
tundra areas along the Arctic Sea; the far east areas facing China and
Japan, which essentially are Asian.

Some people say that the tiny western most strip of Turkey on the
western side of the Bosphorus strait would be "European". Whole of the
country resides in Asia and is Asian and all the peoples living there
are Asian. Culturally most Asian. Naturally one could argue about this
and remind that Turkey regularly attend the annual Eurovision song
contest. Honestly, Turkey is as much European as Guinea Bissau and
Nepal are American.
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Old May 24th, 2004, 08:34 AM
Miguel Cruz
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wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote :
wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote:
Why wouldn't it? They work pretty much everywhere else in Europe.
Just dial 001 first.

Turkey is an Asian country.


Like Russia?


Some people say that the tiny western most strip of Turkey on the
western side of the Bosphorus strait would be "European". Whole of the
country resides in Asia and is Asian and all the peoples living there
are Asian. Culturally most Asian. Naturally one could argue about this
and remind that Turkey regularly attend the annual Eurovision song
contest. Honestly, Turkey is as much European as Guinea Bissau and
Nepal are American.


Have you been to Turkey?

miguel
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Old May 24th, 2004, 04:03 PM
Madonna
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JohnT wrote:
"Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
...

Madonna wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote:
Why wouldn't it? They work pretty much everywhere else in Europe.
Just dial 001 first.


Europeans have country-specific 800 numbers, not multi-national like
North America.
In Europe you usually dial 0 before not 001.
For example to reach Creative Labs in Germany you dial 0 800 101 3796
http://uk.europe.creative.com/recall/welcome.asp

"800 numbers can only be used in the United States and Canada"
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20020513e.asp


Congratulations, you've discovered the 1,000,000th piece of false
information on the web.


Well maybe you can come up with a better site or provide a little bit
more information.

miguel (who has dialed 800 numbers from Germany and the Netherlands within
the past 6 weeks, and from dozens of other countries over the years)

Well this service has not always been available. At least not with Bell
Canada.

Whilst agreeing totally with Miguel that US 800 numbers can be dialled from
Europe, he didn't mention that the call is not free. It is always a chargeable
Transatlantic call unless it is one of the very rare breed of International free
numbers.

So how does it work? You use AT&T access number first or use straight
Deutsche Telekom 0-800 prefix? Or you dial long-distance as if you
were calling a number like NYC zzz-212-xxx-yyyy but use zzz-800-aaa-bbbb
instead?

And, btw, whilst the "800" concept originated in North America, using
800 (and 500 in the UK) as a dialling prefix is common in Europe too.

For country-specifc 800 service. If you watch ads on satellite tv like
SKY they list a dozen toll-free phone numbers, one for each country.

And what about Asia/Australia/... can you dial US or Canadian 800
numbers from Nepal or Japan?
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Old May 24th, 2004, 05:06 PM
Chris Blunt
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 11:03:03 -0400, Madonna wrote:

JohnT wrote:
"Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
...

Madonna wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote:
Why wouldn't it? They work pretty much everywhere else in Europe.
Just dial 001 first.


Europeans have country-specific 800 numbers, not multi-national like
North America.
In Europe you usually dial 0 before not 001.
For example to reach Creative Labs in Germany you dial 0 800 101 3796
http://uk.europe.creative.com/recall/welcome.asp


There are basically two systems used in most places in the world. One
is a national system, just like the US, where you dial 0-800, or some
variant of that. That usually connects you to a company located in the
same country, although sometimes the call will be routed
internationally to a call centre elsewhere in the world.

Then there is the international toll-free service, where you dial the
number in the same format as you would an international call, but
using 800 as the country code. That will route your call anywhere in
the world at no cost to the caller.


"800 numbers can only be used in the United States and Canada"
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20020513e.asp

Congratulations, you've discovered the 1,000,000th piece of false
information on the web.


Well maybe you can come up with a better site or provide a little bit
more information.


Most people have learned from personal experience that the statement
you quoted above is incorrect. Reality learned from experience is
better than any web site you might come up with.

miguel (who has dialed 800 numbers from Germany and the Netherlands within
the past 6 weeks, and from dozens of other countries over the years)

Well this service has not always been available. At least not with Bell
Canada.

Whilst agreeing totally with Miguel that US 800 numbers can be dialled from
Europe, he didn't mention that the call is not free. It is always a chargeable
Transatlantic call unless it is one of the very rare breed of International free
numbers.

So how does it work? You use AT&T access number first or use straight
Deutsche Telekom 0-800 prefix? Or you dial long-distance as if you
were calling a number like NYC zzz-212-xxx-yyyy but use zzz-800-aaa-bbbb
instead?

And, btw, whilst the "800" concept originated in North America, using
800 (and 500 in the UK) as a dialling prefix is common in Europe too.

For country-specifc 800 service. If you watch ads on satellite tv like
SKY they list a dozen toll-free phone numbers, one for each country.

And what about Asia/Australia/... can you dial US or Canadian 800
numbers from Nepal or Japan?


Normally yes. I've lived in various countries in Asia and can't
remember one I could not dial US 800 numbers from (at the cost of a
normal call to the US).

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Old May 24th, 2004, 06:43 PM
JohnT
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"Madonna" wrote in message
news
JohnT wrote:
"Miguel Cruz" wrote in message
...

Madonna wrote:
Miguel Cruz wrote:
Why wouldn't it? They work pretty much everywhere else in Europe.
Just dial 001 first.


Europeans have country-specific 800 numbers, not multi-national like
North America.
In Europe you usually dial 0 before not 001.
For example to reach Creative Labs in Germany you dial 0 800 101 3796
http://uk.europe.creative.com/recall/welcome.asp

"800 numbers can only be used in the United States and Canada"
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/cc/20020513e.asp

Congratulations, you've discovered the 1,000,000th piece of false
information on the web.


Well maybe you can come up with a better site or provide a little bit
more information.

miguel (who has dialed 800 numbers from Germany and the Netherlands within
the past 6 weeks, and from dozens of other countries over the years)

Well this service has not always been available. At least not with Bell
Canada.

Whilst agreeing totally with Miguel that US 800 numbers can be dialled from
Europe, he didn't mention that the call is not free. It is always a

chargeable
Transatlantic call unless it is one of the very rare breed of International

free
numbers.

So how does it work? You use AT&T access number first or use straight
Deutsche Telekom 0-800 prefix? Or you dial long-distance as if you
were calling a number like NYC zzz-212-xxx-yyyy but use zzz-800-aaa-bbbb
instead?

And, btw, whilst the "800" concept originated in North America, using
800 (and 500 in the UK) as a dialling prefix is common in Europe too.

For country-specifc 800 service. If you watch ads on satellite tv like
SKY they list a dozen toll-free phone numbers, one for each country.

And what about Asia/Australia/... can you dial US or Canadian 800
numbers from Nepal or Japan?


If the US 800 number is, for example, 1-800-123-4567 then from the UK one would
dial the international access code 00 then the Country code 1 then the number
excluding the US long-distance access code. Thus I would dial 00 1 800 123 4567.
Often there will be a recorded announcemebt saying that the call is chargeable,
and then it is connected.

JohnT


 




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