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  #11  
Old July 8th, 2008, 01:40 PM posted to rec.travel.asia
William Black
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"PeterL" wrote in message
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On Jul 7, 9:25 am, "Gerald Oliver Swift" wrote:

Must say that the PoW "experience" looks very impressive - but Christ,
what
a blinkin' rip off!

Gerry


And that's double occupancy. It's not a rip off, but they offer a
service that some people are willing to pay for. E.g. insulation from
the locals.

-------------------------

Why would people want to be insulated from the locals?

India can be difficult, but I find the place endlessly entertaining.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




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Old July 8th, 2008, 07:02 PM posted to rec.travel.asia
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William Black wrote:
"Gerald Oliver Swift" wrote in message
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"William Black" wrote in message
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"Alan S" wrote in message
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Far better off hiring a car and driver. Cheaper, more
flexible, able to see more, and he won't leave without you
if you're late getting back from sight-seeing.


Seconded.



There was an ad this week in one of the UK's Saturday papers: 15
day PoW tour - £3,600 pp.




Only 7 days on PoW though ! Other nights in hotels with breakfast each day.
Includes a total of 5 lunches, 4 dinners, excusions and flights from UK.
Now that is overly expensive

Jan




I'm just in the process of planning a 35-day trip for this coming
January/February and so far it's coming in at about £1,300 with
everything included: flights ex-UK, India Rail Pass, 22 nights' 3-star
hotel accommodation, 3 nights' tiger safari, all food,
spending money and visa. Must say that the PoW "experience" looks very
impressive - but
Christ, what a blinkin' rip off!


Once you get to India things get cheap.



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Old July 9th, 2008, 04:16 PM posted to rec.travel.asia
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On Jul 8, 5:40*am, "William Black"
wrote:
"PeterL" wrote in message

...
On Jul 7, 9:25 am, "Gerald Oliver Swift" wrote:

Must say that the PoW "experience" looks very impressive - but Christ,
what
a blinkin' rip off!


Gerry


And that's double occupancy. *It's not a rip off, but they offer a
service that some people are willing to pay for. *E.g. insulation from
the locals.

-------------------------

Why would people want to be insulated from the locals?

India can be difficult, *but I find the place endlessly entertaining.



There are lots of different reasons and ways people want to travel.
You like it one way, don't mean everyone has to think the same.



--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, *like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.


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Old July 9th, 2008, 07:45 PM posted to rec.travel.asia
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On Jul 9, 8:16*pm, PeterL wrote:
On Jul 8, 5:40*am, "William Black"
wrote:





"PeterL" wrote in message


....
On Jul 7, 9:25 am, "Gerald Oliver Swift" wrote:


Must say that the PoW "experience" looks very impressive - but Christ,
what
a blinkin' rip off!


Gerry


And that's double occupancy. *It's not a rip off, but they offer a
service that some people are willing to pay for. *E.g. insulation from
the locals.


-------------------------


Why would people want to be insulated from the locals?


India can be difficult, *but I find the place endlessly entertaining.


There are lots of different reasons and ways people want to travel.
You like it one way, don't mean everyone has to think the same.





--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, *like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.- Hide quoted text -


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Actually this POW is cultural train which is picturescue of Rajasthani
culture and how The Mughal Kings lived in Past and make you feel like
emperor in a palace.

Thanx

Deepak
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Old July 9th, 2008, 11:33 PM posted to rec.travel.asia
William Black
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"PURELY INDIAN" wrote in message
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Actually this POW is cultural train which is picturescue of Rajasthani
culture and how The Mughal Kings lived in Past and make you feel like
emperor in a palace.

------------------------------

I didn't think the Mughal Kings built many railways in India...

Zafar was exiled only four years after the first passenger train ran, and
that ran from Bombay to Thane, inside the 'Bombay Presidency'.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




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Old July 10th, 2008, 01:13 AM posted to rec.travel.asia
grusl[_3_]
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"William Black" wrote in message
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"PURELY INDIAN" wrote in message
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Actually this POW is cultural train which is picturescue of Rajasthani
culture and how The Mughal Kings lived in Past and make you feel like
emperor in a palace.

------------------------------

I didn't think the Mughal Kings built many railways in India...

Zafar was exiled only four years after the first passenger train ran, and
that ran from Bombay to Thane, inside the 'Bombay Presidency'.


Surely you're not suggesting that "heritage travel" in India has elements of
fictional reconstruction?

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore


  #17  
Old July 10th, 2008, 10:23 AM posted to rec.travel.asia
William Black
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"grusl" wrote in message
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"William Black" wrote in message
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"PURELY INDIAN" wrote in message
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Actually this POW is cultural train which is picturescue of Rajasthani
culture and how The Mughal Kings lived in Past and make you feel like
emperor in a palace.

------------------------------

I didn't think the Mughal Kings built many railways in India...

Zafar was exiled only four years after the first passenger train ran,
and that ran from Bombay to Thane, inside the 'Bombay Presidency'.


Surely you're not suggesting that "heritage travel" in India has elements
of fictional reconstruction?


Just about everything involving 'high quality tourism' in India is fiction.

India has become adept at selling a view of itself where the British have
become totally irrelevant.

The only place I've even seen the Raj mentioned was at Sabarmati Ashram,
where they're depicted as stupid, stubborn and wicked.

India has created a false legend out of history, and is busy trying to make
people believe it.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.



  #18  
Old July 10th, 2008, 11:06 AM posted to rec.travel.asia
Alan S[_1_]
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 05:43:54 +0530, "grusl"
wrote:

Actually this POW is cultural train which is picturescue of Rajasthani
culture and how The Mughal Kings lived in Past and make you feel like
emperor in a palace.

------------------------------

I didn't think the Mughal Kings built many railways in India...

Zafar was exiled only four years after the first passenger train ran, and
that ran from Bombay to Thane, inside the 'Bombay Presidency'.


Surely you're not suggesting that "heritage travel" in India has elements of
fictional reconstruction?


Heaven forbid! Surely not!

Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan_s/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com
Latest: On Indian Roads
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Old July 10th, 2008, 11:08 AM posted to rec.travel.asia
Alan S[_1_]
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:23:27 +0100, "William Black"
wrote:


"grusl" wrote in message
...

"William Black" wrote in message
...

"PURELY INDIAN" wrote in message
...


Actually this POW is cultural train which is picturescue of Rajasthani
culture and how The Mughal Kings lived in Past and make you feel like
emperor in a palace.

------------------------------

I didn't think the Mughal Kings built many railways in India...

Zafar was exiled only four years after the first passenger train ran,
and that ran from Bombay to Thane, inside the 'Bombay Presidency'.


Surely you're not suggesting that "heritage travel" in India has elements
of fictional reconstruction?


Just about everything involving 'high quality tourism' in India is fiction.

India has become adept at selling a view of itself where the British have
become totally irrelevant.

The only place I've even seen the Raj mentioned was at Sabarmati Ashram,
where they're depicted as stupid, stubborn and wicked.

India has created a false legend out of history, and is busy trying to make
people believe it.


Agreed; however there were several plaques and other
mementoes at the Red Fort (Agra) and the Taj Mahal dedicated
to past British governors or those who saved the Taj from
destruction.


Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan_s/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com
Latest: On Indian Roads
  #20  
Old July 10th, 2008, 12:55 PM posted to rec.travel.asia
grusl[_3_]
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"Alan S" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:23:27 +0100, "William Black"
wrote:


"grusl" wrote in message
...

"William Black" wrote in message
...

"PURELY INDIAN" wrote in message
...


Actually this POW is cultural train which is picturescue of Rajasthani
culture and how The Mughal Kings lived in Past and make you feel like
emperor in a palace.

------------------------------

I didn't think the Mughal Kings built many railways in India...

Zafar was exiled only four years after the first passenger train ran,
and that ran from Bombay to Thane, inside the 'Bombay Presidency'.


Surely you're not suggesting that "heritage travel" in India has
elements
of fictional reconstruction?


Just about everything involving 'high quality tourism' in India is
fiction.

India has become adept at selling a view of itself where the British have
become totally irrelevant.

The only place I've even seen the Raj mentioned was at Sabarmati Ashram,
where they're depicted as stupid, stubborn and wicked.

India has created a false legend out of history, and is busy trying to
make
people believe it.


Agreed; however there were several plaques and other
mementoes at the Red Fort (Agra) and the Taj Mahal dedicated
to past British governors or those who saved the Taj from
destruction.


Bangalore is relatively kind to the British too, despite the recent nonsense
over renaming (what is nationalism called if it's at a state level?). Many
of the Indian names for suburbs are totally ignored. Nobody refers to the
suburb I live in, Richmond Town, as Sir Mirza Ismail Nagar, its official
name.

Sir Mark Cubbon, the former commissioner of Mysore who died in 1861, is
commemorated for having established Bangalore's parks, a mainstay of the
city's relative liveability. A large statue of Queen Victoria sits
unmolested in Cubbon Park. Far more strangely, there's a statue of King
Edward VII in one corner and young women occasionally furtively pray in
front of it. (A local scholar thinks it might be related to fertility).

(And yes, the irony of including the British knighthood in the eponym
escaped the authorities). Residency Road (Cariappa Road) and Richmond Road
(Thimmiah Road) have both retained their colonial names to anyone who
matters, even if you're using them in a Kannada sentence. Rickshaw drivers
would be confounded if you used the new names.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore



 




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