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Old September 1st, 2006, 11:01 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.usa-canada
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Dave Frightens Me wrote:

On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 23:26:34 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Dave Frightens Me writes:

There is no such thing.


There is indeed such a thing, and speaking it helps one to get a
decent job.


There is no such thing as standard English. It doesn't exist.

And you don't have a decent job.


Damn- you beat me to it!

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Old September 2nd, 2006, 11:50 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.usa-canada
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:21:15 -0700,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:



Hatunen wrote:

On 31 Aug 2006 22:31:23 -0700, wrote:


Jim Ley wrote:

So you believe africans are stupid, in some way less able than people
from other countries?

Mixi responded:


As a group, yes. The Chinese were building rockets centuries ago;
they obviously were not and are not stupid. Africans, in contrast, are
still living in dung-covered huts after 10,000 years. This does not
speak highly of their cognitive capacity.



That question has been addresed in the book "Guns, Germs and
Steel" by Jared Diamond, and quite definitively, too. It has
nothing to do with ability or brains. I doubt if Mixi would want
to read it; it might educate him.


I thought Africa was regarded as the "cradle" of the human
race! (In that the earliest identifiably human remains were
found there.) Is that no longer true?


No it's still the mainstream theory.

"Civilizations" rise and fall due to many factors, so when
considering all of human history, present-day "dung-covered
huts" need not contradict a proud civilization a few
thousand years ago.


That's not really the point of the book.

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  #328  
Old September 2nd, 2006, 11:51 PM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.usa-canada
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:18:34 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:21:15 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote:



Hatunen wrote:

On 31 Aug 2006 22:31:23 -0700, wrote:


Jim Ley wrote:

So you believe africans are stupid, in some way less able than people
from other countries?

Mixi responded:


As a group, yes. The Chinese were building rockets centuries ago;
they obviously were not and are not stupid. Africans, in contrast, are
still living in dung-covered huts after 10,000 years. This does not
speak highly of their cognitive capacity.


That question has been addresed in the book "Guns, Germs and
Steel" by Jared Diamond, and quite definitively, too. It has
nothing to do with ability or brains. I doubt if Mixi would want
to read it; it might educate him.


I thought Africa was regarded as the "cradle" of the human
race! (In that the earliest identifiably human remains were
found there.) Is that no longer true?


Civilisation and human remains are not one and the same! It's about
complex societal structures that were formed, and the infrastructure
to support them.


Mostly due to the rise of agriculture.

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  #329  
Old September 3rd, 2006, 01:20 AM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.usa-canada
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
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Hatunen wrote:

On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:21:15 -0700,
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:



Hatunen wrote:


On 31 Aug 2006 22:31:23 -0700, wrote:



Jim Ley wrote:


So you believe africans are stupid, in some way less able than people

from other countries?

Mixi responded:



As a group, yes. The Chinese were building rockets centuries ago;
they obviously were not and are not stupid. Africans, in contrast, are
still living in dung-covered huts after 10,000 years. This does not
speak highly of their cognitive capacity.


That question has been addresed in the book "Guns, Germs and
Steel" by Jared Diamond, and quite definitively, too. It has
nothing to do with ability or brains. I doubt if Mixi would want
to read it; it might educate him.


I thought Africa was regarded as the "cradle" of the human
race! (In that the earliest identifiably human remains were
found there.) Is that no longer true?



No it's still the mainstream theory.


"Civilizations" rise and fall due to many factors, so when
considering all of human history, present-day "dung-covered
huts" need not contradict a proud civilization a few
thousand years ago.



That's not really the point of the book.


That was just my own observation - I've not read the book.

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Old September 3rd, 2006, 10:30 AM posted to rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.usa-canada
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On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 15:51:20 -0700, Hatunen wrote:

On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:18:34 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:21:15 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote:



Hatunen wrote:

On 31 Aug 2006 22:31:23 -0700, wrote:


Jim Ley wrote:

So you believe africans are stupid, in some way less able than people
from other countries?

Mixi responded:


As a group, yes. The Chinese were building rockets centuries ago;
they obviously were not and are not stupid. Africans, in contrast, are
still living in dung-covered huts after 10,000 years. This does not
speak highly of their cognitive capacity.


That question has been addresed in the book "Guns, Germs and
Steel" by Jared Diamond, and quite definitively, too. It has
nothing to do with ability or brains. I doubt if Mixi would want
to read it; it might educate him.

I thought Africa was regarded as the "cradle" of the human
race! (In that the earliest identifiably human remains were
found there.) Is that no longer true?


Civilisation and human remains are not one and the same! It's about
complex societal structures that were formed, and the infrastructure
to support them.


Mostly due to the rise of agriculture.


Actually the Egyptians were good at that, weren't they?
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