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Passport control before Checkin
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:03:12 -0000, "Miss L. Toe"
wrote: "Hilary" wrote in message ... It also said on the passport/id booth that you needed to show your ID and ticket or e-ticket Itenerary - does this mean you can't get away with just carrying the booking reference number ? (Ok I know its a good idea to carry printouts, but what if you lose them). Many carriers are now requiring you to carry the e-ticket itinerary. I have been told that in some airports you need to show the itinerary to get through security. So does this mean that the e-ticket move is nothing more than a move away from relatively difficult to forge 'tickets' to easy to forge 'tickets' ? Doesnt it all come down to what the airline has in its computer at check-in, irrelevant of what bit of paper with numbers on it that a person might have in their mits? |
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"Martin WY" wrote in message
... On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:03:12 -0000, "Miss L. Toe" wrote: "Hilary" wrote in message ... It also said on the passport/id booth that you needed to show your ID and ticket or e-ticket Itenerary - does this mean you can't get away with just carrying the booking reference number ? (Ok I know its a good idea to carry printouts, but what if you lose them). Many carriers are now requiring you to carry the e-ticket itinerary. I have been told that in some airports you need to show the itinerary to get through security. So does this mean that the e-ticket move is nothing more than a move away from relatively difficult to forge 'tickets' to easy to forge 'tickets' ? Doesnt it all come down to what the airline has in its computer at check-in, irrelevant of what bit of paper with numbers on it that a person might have in their mits? It should, and has for me. I recently booked a KLM e-ticket HUY-ARN at 9pm Sunday to travel 10:30am Monday, and printed the e-mail just for my own reference. They only wanted to see my passport to check in, brought up my itinerary by name. Res |
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In message , Martin WY
writes So does this mean that the e-ticket move is nothing more than a move away from relatively difficult to forge 'tickets' to easy to forge 'tickets' ? Doesnt it all come down to what the airline has in its computer at check-in, irrelevant of what bit of paper with numbers on it that a person might have in their mits? I think you are missing the point. It's not about the airline knowing you are the genuine paid-up passenger for that seat (after all they can eject you right up to departure if it turns out you are an imposter), but stopping penniless terrorists from being able to enter parts of the airport. All they need do is buy a ticket to somewhere, and instant access! -- Roland Perry |
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"resenär" wrote in message ... "Martin WY" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 09:03:12 -0000, "Miss L. Toe" wrote: "Hilary" wrote in message ... It also said on the passport/id booth that you needed to show your ID and ticket or e-ticket Itenerary - does this mean you can't get away with just carrying the booking reference number ? (Ok I know its a good idea to carry printouts, but what if you lose them). Many carriers are now requiring you to carry the e-ticket itinerary. I have been told that in some airports you need to show the itinerary to get through security. So does this mean that the e-ticket move is nothing more than a move away from relatively difficult to forge 'tickets' to easy to forge 'tickets' ? Doesnt it all come down to what the airline has in its computer at check-in, irrelevant of what bit of paper with numbers on it that a person might have in their mits? It should, and has for me. I recently booked a KLM e-ticket HUY-ARN at 9pm Sunday to travel 10:30am Monday, and printed the e-mail just for my own reference. They only wanted to see my passport to check in, brought up my itinerary by name. Thats the way it *should* work, (and always has for me in the USA), but having tested Ryanair several times, they always demand the booking reference number (its OK if its written on a scruffy yellow sticky) - next time I'll try memorising it and see if thats OK. But MRU immigration and CDG (T2) passport exit control seem to want the printed itenary. |
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"Roland Perry" wrote in message ... In message , Martin WY writes So does this mean that the e-ticket move is nothing more than a move away from relatively difficult to forge 'tickets' to easy to forge 'tickets' ? Doesnt it all come down to what the airline has in its computer at check-in, irrelevant of what bit of paper with numbers on it that a person might have in their mits? I think you are missing the point. It's not about the airline knowing you are the genuine paid-up passenger for that seat (after all they can eject you right up to departure if it turns out you are an imposter), but stopping penniless terrorists from being able to enter parts of the airport. All they need do is buy a ticket to somewhere, and instant access! But the penniles (and multimillionaire) terriorists seem to have given up on the airline industry (for now). They may return to it once we have to take our shoes off to get on a bus, or train. |
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"Miss L. Toe" wrote: So does this mean that the e-ticket move is nothing more than a move away from relatively difficult to forge 'tickets' to easy to forge 'tickets' ? mabe that, but cost of issuance is apparently much lower |
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Martin WY wrote: Doesnt it all come down to what the airline has in its computer at check-in, irrelevant of what bit of paper with numbers on it that a person might have in their mits? That, or be able to access their computer systems at checkin (via the airport's computer terminals) |
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Miss L. Toe wrote:
But the penniles (and multimillionaire) terriorists seem to have given up on the airline industry (for now). They may return to it once we have to take our shoes off to get on a bus, or train. Air travel is increasing. Regarding the terrorist thing. The train bombings killed 200, the planes about 3000. You can't drive a train into a packed skyscraper or packed stadium. |
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mtravelkay writes:
Regarding the terrorist thing. The train bombings killed 200, the planes about 3000. You can't drive a train into a packed skyscraper or packed stadium. No, this is dangerously naive. The train bombs killed 200 people because some of them went off BEFORE they went into the station - some of the trains were late. What if the bombs had gone off at the planned time in the planned location (all inside the station, one presumes)? What if the station had collapsed while full of commuters? Thousands would have died. -- -- Chris. |
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"mtravelkay" wrote in message m... Miss L. Toe wrote: But the penniles (and multimillionaire) terriorists seem to have given up on the airline industry (for now). They may return to it once we have to take our shoes off to get on a bus, or train. Air travel is increasing. Regarding the terrorist thing. The train bombings killed 200, the planes about 3000. I suspect the 3,000 (I thought it was now down to 2,000) was more luck than judgement. From the documentaries I saw I suspect theey were expecting fewer deaths. You can't drive a train into a packed skyscraper or packed stadium. How many terrorists did they loose in the planes ? vs how many might they loose from the trains. |
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